https://lemmynsfw.com/comment/8244505
It's already dead. r/wholesomememes decided to allow only original content (no bots or reposts), and, after two days the only post was one begging human users to post anything original.
There are no users left. It's bots all the way through, like maggots in a rotting corpse.
Abandon all hope ye who enter there!
No, you're missing the point. You make up some credible misinformation to poison AI training with, but you don't stop there: you get an LLM to rewrite it for you. Retry until you get a text that sounds credible, doesn't particularly look written by AI, and people will upvote, and post that.
With this, even if the text looks good, you're not only poisoning future models with the misinformation you started with; by feeding them a text generated by an LLM (even if you can't tell the difference at first glance) you're introducing feedback into the model that will also poison it, not with misinformation, but by reinforcing its biases and errors and reducing the variety of its training data.
We're talking about LLMs. They're useless for most practical applications by definition.
And when they're not entirely useless (basically, autocomplete) they're orders of magnitude less cost-effective than older almost equivalent alternatives, so they're effectively useless at that, too.
They're fancy extremely costly toys without any practical use, that thanks to the short-sighted greed of the scammers selling them will soon become even more useless due to model collapse.
If they still profit from it, no.
Open models made by nonprofit organisations, listing their sources, not including anything from anyone who requests it not to be included (with robots.txt, for instance), and burdened with a GPL-like viral license that prevents the models and their results from being used for profit... that'd probably be fine.
If you do crime big enough, it becomes good.
No, no it doesn't.
It might become legal, or tolerated, or the laws might become unenforceable.
But that doesn't make it good, on the contrary, it makes it even worse.
OS vendors aren't selling¹ what users copy into the clipboard.
¹ Well, Microsoft probably is, especially with that recall bullshit, and I don't trust Google and Apple not to do it either... but if any of them is doing it they should get fined into bankruptcy.
It's tragic, really. Reddit used to be great. Enshittification sucks.
It's an LLM. Odds are it's hallucinating the sources and they don't even exist.
Know what does compile sources for you which are guaranteed to exist and be related to what you're looking for..? A good old not LLM infected search engine.
If my plumber replaces their wrench for a rabid gerbil claiming it'll be just as good I'm definitely changing plumbers.
The good thing about that is that this kills the LLMs, since new models can only be trained on this LLM generated gibberish, which makes the gibberish they'll generate even more garbled and useless, and so on, until every model you try to train can only produce random useless unintelligible garbage.
It's already dead. r/wholesomememes decided to allow only original content (no bots or reposts), and, after two days the only post was one begging human users to post anything original.
There are no users left. It's bots all the way through, like maggots in a rotting corpse.
Have a look at r/wholesomememes; they decided to allow only original content (no bots or reposts), and, after two days the only post was one begging human users to post anything original.
Much more than half the users are bots.