maegul

fediverse had a strong european presence before the reddit migration too. The Mastodon lead-dev/founder, for instance, is German. And European governments have been far more interested in running their own instances on the fediverse than any other country AFAICT (to the point that I've seen it confuse North-American admins).

Just had a brief look ... they seem to be created by the admin and not user defined?

They have multi communities!? Didn’t know!

Yea I think some more straight forward mechanisms could help there. Federating the alliance at a deep level is probably tricky. Some thoughts:

• Being able to view all the comments from the different cross posts or duplicate-link posts (which lemmy can automatically register). This has come up before, even in this comments section.
• Easily manageable multi-communities. Basically my idea, but making sure that they are easy to share, load, manipulate and view. For instance, your idea of "Allied communities" could be achieved to some extent by having these communities list in their side bar (or maybe some other convenient spot for this specific purpose) a suggested multi-community that contains the other allied communities. But, instead of just being a list, it's some sort of link that takes you to a view of that multi-community, like any other feed, which you can then easily save to your list of multi-communities.
  • If done along with cross-post comment merging, I'd say you pretty much get to your allied communities idea.
  • Maybe there'd some way to combine the two where the "cross-post-comment-merging" mechanism is aware if you're viewing through a multi-community and so automatically (depending on a setting probably) merges across communities in your multi-community, or at least presents a button for easily doing that.

All of that would be, I think, easier than some deeper addition to federation.

More generally, I think a lot of fediverse stuff comes down to just getting smarter with our clients where some helpful endpoints on the server can help but aren't nearly as complex and don't need to increase the complexity on the federation side of things.

I'm not sure I understand what that would look like or why you'd want that ... ??

Like ... sort of an alliance of communities on different instances that are discrete but, because they've chosen to "ally" with each other, can be interacted with in some unified way??

AFAICT, it's been something on lemmy's radar for a long while too. I get the sense the devs never worked out how they wanted to do it or maybe were a bit too ambitious in what they wanted from the feature and so it was kinda left by the way side, unfortunately. If I were to ever start contributing to lemmy it'd probably be the first thing I try to pick up.

Multi communities. They would be a big deal IMO. If you could have multiple saved into a list so that you could check different feeds depending on what you’re interested in, it would be much better. Combine that with the scaled sort (as well as the others), and you’re managing your feed very well IMO.

Yea I’ve been on scaled + subscribed as my default feed since it came out and haven’t looked back.

Interestingly, it’s one of those things that should get better the more people use it.

If we can get Discourse and NodeBB sharing nicely with Lemmy+Mbin+PieFed it could more than double the size of the threadverse. It’s a big deal.

Indeed!

If that all comes together, it'd be like "what kind of forum/reddit platform does the fediverse have" and the answer would just be "yes".

Yea. Broadly it's basically everything that's not microblogging and has well organised conversations

Thanks!

When Stewart started his show on Apple TV, I was interested, because I figure he wouldn't have gone there unless he had some assurances about being able to do whatever he wanted. And in some ways, the show seemed to be produced in a way that backed up that guess. It seemed pretty serious and not too concerned with ensuring ratings/engagement, and resulted in some awesome interviews from Stewart (better journalism than anything he's doing on the Daily Show AFAICT, though I haven't seen this interview).

I figured for Apple it made business sense to sell themselves as a media business that enables high quality content including some freedom of press values. I figured that they thought through how to distance themselves as a tech company from any views they disliked from their TV product, so long as people paid the subscriptions.

Of course, that they couldn't help themselves is of no surprise to anyone. The real surprise was that the show happened in the first place, and it'd be interesting to know if there was a struggle within Apple about the whole thing.

In the end though, the whole thing IMO is a good lesson in how news/journalism cannot be mixed with conflicting interests, at all.

It's really good that the story is being spoken about too by Stewart having first hand experience of how it went down ... because these sorts of interests are all over the industry and really need to be addressed.

My understanding is that this is what’s happening everywhere. Instead of establishing some precedent, every party is just cashing out with licence agreements or settlements. Basically hedging their bets it seems.

Meanwhile the game plan from big AI is obviously to keep burning cash until they rule the world (or die).