maynarkh

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[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 4 points 8 months ago (14 children)

It does apply, but not to the Lemmy devs, but to the instance admins.

As it stands, you can't legally host a Lemmy server in either the EU or the US (or places they can reach) and federate with the 'verse at large without fear that the authorities will come after you.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 3 points 8 months ago

Or the US. The US enforces GDPR on behalf of the EU. If the US catches you with misusing EU citizens' data, they will let the EU take 10 million off your accounts and/or close your instance.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 30 points 8 months ago (7 children)

You are responsible for data collected by your own instance. If a deletion request comes through, you are responsible for deleting it from your account, and forwarding the deletion request and responses to other instance you federate with. You are in the clear as long as you don't keep data you legally can't, and have sufficiently informed other instances of your obligations.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 22 points 8 months ago (21 children)

You can’t and this is a shit article…the GDPR doesn’t apply to instance outside of the EU…

It absolutely does, if the company processes data of EU residents. The US enforces GDPR themselves, as they have signed an agreement to do so. To be clear, this means that according to US law, if you are a US web host, you can abuse US customer data and the FBI will not come after you, but if you do so with EU customer data, US authorities will come after you on behalf of the EU.

Literally people using the GDPR like it’s some gotcha thing for admins. If nothing is sold or offered to be sold and their is no financial gain it’s not going to apply.

Yeah it does, as soon as you are providing a service, if you have a user from the EU that's not you, it applies. And while GDPR fines are defined in a revenue percentage, there is a minimum of "up to 10 million EUR" for a violation.

On top of that good luck suing a FOSS dev.

Nobody is getting sued. EU data protection agencies don't "sue" people and companies. They fine them. The difference is that a lawsuit is a process where at the end you might need to pay money, but you mostly settle. A GDPR fine looks like you get a letter saying you need to pay an amount, if you want to appeal, you can do so after paying.

And it's not the devs that will be getting these fines, it's instance admins.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 2 points 8 months ago

You needed it for WSL last I used WSL, which was admittedly 5 years ago. It was a weird thing, having to ask our sysadmins to get us access, as Docker needed it at the time. Its front page was mostly Candy Crush calibre stuff even then.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 5 points 8 months ago

No but it's unusable. I had a weird bug on one of my phones that sent an SMS over as fast as it could as long as the phone was on. I wrote the initial SMS, the contents were something like "hey, wanna hang?", and the poor guy on the other side was blasted for several hours of literally constant notifications.

Luckily my plan at the time had unlimited free SMS.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 13 points 8 months ago

I’m sure most Nintendo “fans” aren’t a fan of the company itself, just the games

I think being a fan of any company is weird. I mean products, sure, there are good ones, some are definitely works of art. But companies?

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 18 points 8 months ago (12 children)

If you currently use Android apps from the Amazon Appstore, then you’ll continue to have access to these past the support cutoff date, but you won’t be able to download any new ones once Microsoft makes its Android subsystem end of life next year. On March 6th (tomorrow), Windows 11 users will no longer be able to search for Amazon Appstore or associated Android apps from the Microsoft Store.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

The problem with automation is usually that while it can do 90% of the cases well, and that's where it brings value, for safety critical stuff, like critical car components, there needs to be a way to quickly and easily override it.

In the 1994 Ford Mondeo I used to drive, if a truck with a poorly secured load and a questionably awake driver was barreling down the highway at 110-120 in a rainstorm, if I wanted to get the car ready to pass, it was one move to click the wiper into "wipe for your life" mode before the truck started to powerblast the windscreen with water splashing up from the tires.

I'm not sure if I could do that in a Tesla, especially since if it does it only when it would already be needed, that's too late. And the thing is, even if the automation did work, how do I know 100% it does work when I do something that would be dangerous if it did not work?

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 1 points 8 months ago

This discussion is about whether or not Apple has the right to enforce certain rules and demand a bigger cut from those who want to use their market place, and as we’ve gone over plenty of other markets do this as well. Apple isn’t unique here.

The tech company disadvantaged users by restricting app developers from openly promoting cheaper music subscription services available outside the Apple “ecosystem” , the commission found.

The problem is not that they ask money for advertising on their platform. The problem is that they banned "trailer sellers" from advertising their trailers as purchasable "outside of the car dealership".

Hell, even ignoring Costco and Sam’s Club, nearly any market you decide to sell your product in will be taking a cut, some more than others. This isn’t a new concept - if you want access to a company’s “user base” then you’re going to have to give the company a cut.

The main disagreement here I think is that the EU does not accept Apple as the owner of the iPhone app market. iPhone users don't belong to Apple as customers beyond their device, and are free to buy iPhone-complementary products elsewhere.

And the point with this ruling, other companies are free to advertise that you can buy stuff elsewhere, which Apple didn't let them before.

Not quite, as the ability to hitch your trailer to a car, luckily, isn’t proprietary and works the same across the board. If instead you wanted your trailers to make use of a proprietary feature of Ford’s then yes, you’d have to pay a premium. Whether that’s parody with their OS throughout the trailer, or some other feature that’s specifically theirs, you don’t get access to that for nothing.

That's what I'm saying, cars are a competitive market, because if your car has some "proprietary feature" that only lets some trailers be usable with it, the market will react to it as if your car could not tow trailers. While with the iPhone, it's on the trailers to beg for compatibility. That's the point with these rulings, in a healthy market, everyone having access to Apple's interfaces would be good for Apple. For cars specifically, it's usually the manufacturer who has to license the standard, not the other way around. And that holds true to most tech standards, like HDMI for example. Somehow phone OS APIs seem to be an exception. Wonder why that might be.

Apple itself isn’t a monopoly

I didn't say "Apple is a monopoly", I've said Apple is behaving monopolistically, as in against the ideal of a competitive market. And the EU agrees, hence the fine. What you or I or Apple thinks does not really matter, what matters is what the EU thinks, because the European mobile app market belongs to the EU, and Apple is participating at the EU's pleasure.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, but I imagine Costco or Sam's Club don't manufacture products that then can't be used together with products made somewhere else, do they?

I'm not saying Apple is out of line because of charging for putting stuff in their app store, I'm saying Apple is out of line because they don't let other people develop software compatible with their products and sell it without taking a cut.

It's as if I was manufacturing trailers, and had to pay Ford a 30% cut just because it can be hitched to a Ford. Even John Deere isn't as egregious, because while they are as bad with regard to repairing stuff, even they don't want to take a cut of every hoe and plow that can be hitched on their stuff.

By the way, this is how you know Apple is monopolistic; in a competitive market standards and interoperability increase your revenue, since if there is competition, and they adhere to standards, you become a worse option and uncompetitive. Only monopolistic companies profit off of walled gardens. Competition kills them.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

So the question really is, does the user base belong to Apple just because they bought an Apple product?

If it was a car, would it be reasonable for Ford to demand a revenue share just because someone manufactures "compatible" tyres?

How is Apple different that it deserves having an "ecosystem"?

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