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On voyager, it shows up as newline. That's an odd one.

That's actually super neat. They really buried the lead with that article headline.

I'm personally not pissed but I'm not sure if they're missing something or not. Or just old fashioned ragebaiting. If it's ragebaiting, they got me.

Which already has been redesigned by people who know what they're doing. This is just someone making a minimalist phone.

I'm not sure if I'm missing something or not.

I was referring to the Arduino phone. In general you're not wrong.

The scope of the conversation is just the phone itself.

Hardware was designed first, and then they applied software.

Edit: when I meant necessity for the cut down software. I meant it as in "the Arduino is barely fast enough to run the software, any extraneous thing needs to go"

Which already exists and has existed for ages.

Lineage os (Android), e/os (Android), postmarket os (straight up Linux) would all be excellent answers for cutdown/debloatable mobile phone OSes. (also Ubuntu touch and whatever the pinephone shipped with)

Its probably a lot harder making an unintrusive os than it is making this.

This is cutdown hardware leading to simplified and cutdown software as it's a necessity here.

I wouldn't consider it reinventing the wheel. Giant algae tanks to replace trees is reinventing the wheel. They're just making a phone out of parts that would have originally been in a cheap phone at one point (before they got turned into development boards).

If I wanted to be super uncharitable, what the maker did was akin to this.

https://youtu.be/d59J78yhwtg

I think they're having more fun making it than looking for a perfect solution. The fastest way to accomplish this is just buying some flipphone from Kyocera or something.

Also it's a prototype. It wouldn't survive in the real world in it's current state.

You need to be able to relock the bootloader after flashing firmware. Pixels can do it and that's it.

It's specifically the ability to relock the bootloader with custom software. Pixels are the only phones that can do it.

I wanted more up to date packages in the "stable" branch of updates and less kernel updates (I already have a debian laptop using testing or unstable packages). It's fine. I'm just gonna yeet snap. I'm using it for ML and Data Science stuff for school work. I can easily explain Ubuntu to people.