ovovo

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[–] ovovo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

I don't see how.

[–] ovovo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

For the tracker itself, because it is much easier for the police to go after trackers that server thousands of pirates than to go after the individual pirates.

[–] ovovo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago

To be fair, I thought of modifying my client privately to do it, but I guess it will only have an impactful network effect if it is distributed as native feature of popular clients.

[–] ovovo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, with this solution, internally it could be seen a two separate torrents, but if it is an option easily accessible in the client settings, and it is handled transparently as a single torrent, much more people will do it, and the scene as whole would gain with the network effect.

[–] ovovo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Your suggestion would purposely share the same exact private torrent infohash into public DHT/PEX,

Yes, but not necessarily. It is trivial to recompute the infohash with the private bit disabled. This would split the network, but that is probably a good thing to preserve the anonymity of the private tracker users, as pointed out by another commenter.

[–] ovovo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I thought that it was so it could maintain a lower profile, thus attract less unwanted attention, and maintain the health of the torrents with the minimum ratio rules.

But I am not dismissing this issue, I think it is important.

[–] ovovo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

But if this is a concern, the swarm itself could be split into internal/external, and no PEX would be allowed to happen for peers that are received exclusively from the tracker. This way, peers who have the setting enable would act as bridge between the two swarms, and only their IP would be visible.

[–] ovovo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

I don't think so, otherwise magnetic links wouldn't work.

 

Private torrent trackers have all the reasons to remain private, and I don't blame them for that and I am glad private trackers exists. But the torrent files themselves have a setting that says "this torrent is private", which makes the BitTorrent client to not distribute them via DHT, which makes magnetic links not work with them, so they are restricted to people who can obtain the torrent file from the private tracker.

What if clients had an option (on by default) to distribute the torrent via DHT and perform PEX, while still taking care to: a) not place the private tracker in the magnetic link the user might generate, and b) separate the upload/download statistics for the peers returned by the private tracker, so the ratio statistics in the private tracker are not skewed?

This way, private torrents could "escape" into the wild, still maintaining the privacy and social/closed community effects of the private tracker. Someone could download something for a friend or for a random person who asks for some content in a forum, send them the magnetic link, and don't have the private tracker activities or anonymity affected in any way.

What do you think of this idea? How do you think it would be received by private trackers and BitTorrent client developers? What are the drawbacks you can think of?