spaduf

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[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 79 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The devs actually talked about this in the AMA from a couple of days ago. Sounds like the current plan is to have all federating servers send their entire list of communities to each other on a regular basis.

The other thing that I think is worth mentioning is Lemmy Community Boost which is basically a bot that serves the same purpose.

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Great project! I wish y'all the best

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 year ago

Don't they already package and sell your genetic data anyway?

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

There was a fair amount specifically upset that the creators had not decided to focus their efforts on contributing to lemmy directly. I personally think that's silly as it's not hard to find folks who've tried and had a terrible experience.

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

This is not hobby software, this is public good software. They are paid in large part by grants

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Might just be one of those closed dependencies they have you opt into at install time

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

hashtags have better use in platforms like mastadon

Says who? Because that's how the old platforms used it? I think we should really be moving past the direct influence of these corporate platforms and on the fediverse that probably means something of a well understood common language (like @user@instance or !group@instance). Hashtags were only ever a thing on twitter because the users just started using them and full text search was sufficient to handle it (this is more or less the position we're in on lemmy). Direct support didn't come till much later.

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With regards to hashtags I think the utility is mostly in searching among similar things within a community. Suppose there's a community that serves a purpose like r/askhistorians, stackexchange, or like what I'm trying to do over at !opencourselectures@slrpnk.net. In each of those cases, it is enormously useful to be able to search the community by subtopic. Obviously, this could be solved in other ways, but hashtags are probably the simplest to understand and implement.

Very excited to see the outcome of your Ibis project, but I think Lemmy native wikis would see significantly more activity. The easiest implementation I can imagine is a slightly altered frontend for communities marked wikis that also handle some well known syntax (like [[link]] popularized by pkm systems) for internal links. That is links to posts by the same name within a community.

Currently, I'm working on a lemmy bot that handles exactly this internal linking, and hashtag functionality, then builds a static site with support for github pages (so the end result is both a linked community and a seperate site), but I'd much rather have this functionality built into lemmy. To be frank, I'd much rather be trying to build this functionality into lemmy and if I wasn't nearly certain it'd get shot down as out-of-scope, I'd probably be doing that.

I know you're not particularly fond of growth based arguments for new features, but I sincerely believe that the thing that made reddit great in those early days was the tendency for communities to compile resources (particularly for niche and hobby communities). This gave the communities a certain depth that is nearly impossible with posts alone. If that were a first-class feature of Lemmy, I think you'd very quickly see Lemmy fill the niche that federated wiki projects and supplementary wiki services have so far failed to.

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Some things that seem hard to argue with:

  • A mod panel with things like 'add moderator' (maybe this could be attached to the new moderator view?)
  • Targeted reports (choose who receives it; admin/moderator)
  • Moderation actions on jerboa
  • Moderator edits. There's a fine line here and I can understand why you wouldn't want total edit capabilities but it'd be nice to at least be able to do things like mark as nsfw and add content warnings. This sort of feature should also probably target megathreads
  • Private communities (I know local only communities are in the works but there's a whole mess of other criteria that would be useful)

My own personal wishlist:

  • Karma requirements
  • First class wikis
  • Hashtags (I actually think a super simple stopgap solution here is to just have them link to the appropriate search page)
  • Flairs

There's some other stuff that I have seen PRs for and I do understand y'all are working hard. I appreciate the work you've done so far and the communities you've helped build. The Internet is undoubtedly a better place for it.

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I have and if I'm honest I'm probably a little bit too harsh. I think the bigger issue is honestly the priorities of the dev team. There's good reason that this project is focussing on moderation tooling.

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Lemmy had 4 years of development to iron out bugs

Lemmy had 4 years to accrue technical debt and make foot-guns first-class features. A rewrite is probably exactly what it needs.

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