yogthos

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

depressed about futurepast :)

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

Given how things are going, the fucking it up badly option is very much on the table.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm never going to cease to be amazed how much mental energy people spend obsessing over whether something is AI generated or not.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm just hoping the oligarchs in the US will decide they'd rather rule over a diminished empire than live the rest of their days out in bunkers like rats.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

The examples you listed are either small scale, unable to challenge the overarching capitalist system they exist in, or they no longer exist at all. If you consider that a success then I really don't know what else to say.

How is that a straw man? It’s literally what you said.

It's literally not what I said. What I actually said is that the nature of human relations did not fundamentally change in the past century, not that there haven't been any changes. If you claim there has been some fundamental change in society, that would invalidate ML approach to organization, then do articulate what you think that was.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Is your definition of success the establishment of a socialist state? Because anarchists are never going to do that.

My definition is the ability to defend the revolution and prevent a counter revolution. Marxists have been able to do this, but Anarchists have not. Incidentally, Zapatistas have actually started creating more central system now as well. Anarchists are free to demonstrate a working alternative to that though.

You don’t actually believe that basically nothing has changed since before the industrial revolution, do you? That seems intentionally obtuse.

You can't actually address what I said without making a straw man can you?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago

it's an authentic reenactment it turns out

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago (4 children)

To date, nobody has shown a more effective approach to organizing that I'm aware of. All the successful movements follow roughly the same formula. The nature of society has not fundamentally changed in a century, so there's no reason to think that methods of organization need to drastically change as well. Just look at MAS in Bolivia as a very recent example.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago (11 children)

I'm not sure who these MLs are that you're referring to, but the whole point of ML approach is to do all these things you're talking about and couple that with education that provides a clear theoretical understanding of what the problems are, and what the solutions need to be. The whole contribution of Lenin to Marxism was to provide the structure for organizing a revolutionary movement.

 
 

Hey techbro, just grind yourself into dust for a few more years, and I’m sure the AI overlords will reward you with a utopia, or at least a free latte in the break room. Totally worth it, right?

 
 
 
 
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