this post was submitted on 05 Nov 2024
502 points (99.0% liked)
Technology
59495 readers
3041 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related content.
- Be excellent to each another!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
Approved Bots
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Absolutely, if Intel hadn't been sleeping on their laurels for 5 years on desktop performance, and had made 6 and 8 core CPUs themselves before Ryzen arrived. Ryzen would not have been nearly as successful. This was followed by the catastrophic Intel 10nm fab failures, allowing AMD to stay ahead even longer.
So absolutely, AMD has been helped a lot by Intel failing to react in time, and then failing in execution when they did react.
Still I think congratulation is in order, because Ryzen was such a huge improvement on the desktop and server, that they absolutely deserve their success. Threadripper was icing on the cake, and completely trashed Intel in the workstation segment.
And AMD exposed Intel's weakness in face of real competition. Arm and Nvidia had already done that in their respective areas, but AMD did it on Intel's core business.
For people who weren't looking for a developer workstation back then: Threadripper suddenly brought the performance of a xeon workstation costing more than 20k for just a bit over 2k.
That suddenly wasn't a "should I really invest that much money" situation, but a "I'd be stupid not to, productivity increase will pay for that over the next month or so"
Found the fellow Rust developer
Cargo build universe
For sure, and as someone who has been stuck running Linux on an Intel box after being spoiled by all-AMD for about 6 years, I gotta say, the fact that a lot of AMD stuff "just works" in Linux when you have to jump through hoops for the same from Intel is probably a big reason they're picking up in datacenters, too. Datacenters don't usually run on fucking Windows Server, they usually run Linux, and AMD just plays better with Linux at the moment. (In my personal experience, anyway)
Yes this too is really a turnaround compared to "old times". Intel used to be the safe choice, that's definitely not the case anymore.
Their entire architecture also seems to be just plain behind now. The Ultra 2xx series of processors is not only on TSMC, but on a better node than AMD is using for Ryzen 9000 series. But you wouldn't know it from the benchmarks of either performance or efficiency.