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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 100 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Fun fact: Most of the features that people liked about the "new" Windows notepad were just stolen from Notepad++ anyway.

So you may as well just use Notepad++ and enjoy a better experience, plus about a zillion other things like numerous plugins, syntax highlighting for just about every programming language under the sun, immensely configurable color schemes, etc., etc., etc.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 42 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hardly "stolen". Suff like tabs is very basic that n++ didn't invent.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 31 points 10 months ago

And even if Notepad++ had invented it, it's not "stealing" to do the same thing. Notepad++ still has its tabs, nobody stole them. Copied them, maybe. Inspired by them, perhaps. "Stolen" is just a deliberately emotion-baiting term.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Explorer still can't do it though.

Wait, it does now?! Hell freezes over?

[–] clearleaf@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

They had that in win10 as well for about a week and then they took it away hoping nobody noticed it so it could be a win11 feature instead.

[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

More likely they are direct ports of things from the highly popular Visual Studio Code as a lot of people used to bound out RAW HTML and other code in notepad for YEARS before Notepad++ was a thing.

[–] LethalSmack@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think you mean you discovered vs code years before you found notepad++

Notepad++ has been around since 2003 years and vs code has been around since 2015.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

A lot of those features were in visual studio 6, which was released in the late 90s or early 00s. Tabbed files, syntax highlighting for their supported formats (though it was a lot more tightly bound to those languages, like there was a visual basic program and a separate visual c/c++, n++ is the first I remember with arbitrary language syntax highlighting support), pretty sure it had a plugin system, too.

And vs6 was just the first one I used, they might have been present in vs5 or earlier versions.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I suppose we could point to emacs for formatting and syntax highlighting

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Plus an electric list is far superior to tabs. Tabs are too usable. I want to have to hit ctrl+X, L before I can change files.

/s just in case.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, vim also has it today, but I don't know how far back that goes. Screen splitting, too, I use that all the time in vim and GUI editors.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

We didn't have color terminals at my college so if there was any highlighting I wouldn't have seen it. Probably shortly after the first dumb terminals came with color text somebody made emacs or vi do highlighting? Screen splitting goes way back. Emacs had that in the late 80s when I was using it.

[–] LethalSmack@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Visual studio and visual studio code are not the same thing. Visual Studio is a full IDE and is expected to have those features and is clunky because of them. Or was, not sure where it is now. It’d be in the same category as netbeans, eclipsed, and intellij

Vs code is an enhanced lightweight text editor

Notepad++ is the original enhanced lightweight text editor

My point was that Notepad++ came out way before vs code and didn’t copy features from vs code.

Copied from an ide, sure? Not really a good comparison as they are solving two different problems

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

They were features of the text editor that was a part of the integrated development environment. My point was that even though vs code came after n++, those features were a part of the visual studio line, which vs code is a successor of, so if there was inspiration it was more likely in the direction of vs -> n++, though realistically there was probably transfer in both directions over time.

[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 months ago

No I am saying people where coding html in plan old notepad way before notepad +

And separately with MS having popularity with VS code they likely ported the dev functions to ms notepad there is a good chance notepad++ was not the inspiration.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Then those features in VS Code were most likely heavily inspired by Notepad++ as well. Notepad++ was publicly released in 2003, which in computing terms may as well be the neolithic era.

TL;DR: There's no reason to stick with a shitty Microsoft application for this task since N++ exists and is, was, and probably forever will be superior.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

bound out RAW HTML and other code in notepad

You're someone who likes pain huh?

[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

Was making HTML pages long before Notpad++ was a thing young one.

Not saying I would do it that way now.