Transitive defederation -- defederating from instances that federate with Threads as well as defederating from Threads -- isn't likely to be an all-or-nothing thing in the free fediverses. Tradeoffs are different for different people and instances. This is one of the strengths of the fediverse, so however much transitive defederation there winds up being, I see it as overall as a positive thing -- although also messy and complicated.

The recommendation here is for instances to consider #TransitiveDefederation: discuss, and decide what to do. I've also got some thoughts on how to have the discussion -- and the strategic aspects.

(Part 7 of Strategies for the free fediverses )

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 66 points 10 months ago (27 children)

Yeah, strong arming instances to do something or another based on a personal preference I thought was meta's job, not the fediverses.

The entire point is that each instance should decide for themselves. If they want to defederate with me because I haven't made up my mind yet, then so long I guess, to me that says more about them then it does Meta.

[+] thenexusofprivacy@lemmy.blahaj.zone -10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Indeed, the entire point is that instances should decide for themselves -- I say it multiple times in the article and I say it in the excerpt. If they think that you federating with Meta puts them at risk, then they should defederate. And yes, it says more about the instances making the decisions than it does about Meta -- Meta's hosting hate groups and white supremacists whether or not people defederate or transitively defederate.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Aren't you from that instance that threw a tantrum recently and threatened to defed the programming instance because of a personal beef between the admins that was quickly resolved and only resulted in creating a bunch of needless drama?

The above OP is right, it really says more about the servers advocating these things than Meta. Stop wallowing in the mud and just be better than them. Lead by example, not whatever this petty squabble is.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for getting what I was saying.

I'm giving meta a 3 strike rule for my instance. Yes, I will probably eventually defederate with them - but I'm not going to immediately do it now. Yes, they're a horrible company, horrible ethics, and I hate them. However, I'm not going to be one who just blocks them prematurely, they can prove themselves why they're terrible to me. I'll probably get overwhelmed with moderating and just cut it then.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Thank you for fighting the good fight. That's the proper way to do it.

[–] sour@kbin.social -1 points 10 months ago

anyone can be better than company that experimented on teenagers

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