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cross-posted from: https://feddit.org/post/4853884

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[–] lemmus@szmer.info 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ew, that sounds bad. I would prefer "promote open twitter-like social media" instead of "ban X" (you can replace X with any other website/software, even FOSS one). No banning should be allowed in EU.

[–] 46_and_2@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Yeah, keep X on and pile up the multi-million fines if they don't comply with laws. That's the only thing companies care about - something eating up their profits.

And if they keep not complying - then ban it altogether, like Brazil did. I prefer to recognize and ban it for the illegal activities it does, not because some folks don't like it and banded together against it.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They should pass a resolution that all EU member nations shall create official Mastodon and Lemmy instances. Moderators and admins would be actual jobs constrained by the relevant national or EU law.

(Or replace Mastodon and Lemmy with whatever open platforms you deem appropriate)

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I like this idea.

Twitter was supposed to be the "online town hall". And online public spaces are not publicly owned, they're run by private companies that can ban you at their own whims.

With each country having their own federated platforms, they can truly act as online public spaces where the usual laws apply as they would do offline.

You'd need to employ thousands of moderators though if everyone was online but honestly I think it's worth it.

But don't be handing out prison sentences for posting stupid shit. Online harassment and calls for violence can still be legally handled the same way they are offline, but jailing people for offensive jokes and stupid hot takes is just idiotic.

Best way is temporary bans increasing exponentially in length, then small percentage of income fines again increasing exponentially.

Also, and I'd argue we already need this, a court system for online crimes. This means the regular court system doesn't get more workload added on to it and specialist judges and lawyers can be appointed.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm okay with this as long as things like general political or religious speech is protected. When you're punised for speaking against the majority, congratulations you have left/center authoritarianism and it's no better than fascism in my opinion.

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Agreed. Perhaps the best implementation is a highly integrated mix of Mastodon and Lemmy where Mastodon is used for general discussion and news and Lemmy is used for organising communities around subjects like politics and religion.