Transitive defederation -- defederating from instances that federate with Threads as well as defederating from Threads -- isn't likely to be an all-or-nothing thing in the free fediverses. Tradeoffs are different for different people and instances. This is one of the strengths of the fediverse, so however much transitive defederation there winds up being, I see it as overall as a positive thing -- although also messy and complicated.

The recommendation here is for instances to consider #TransitiveDefederation: discuss, and decide what to do. I've also got some thoughts on how to have the discussion -- and the strategic aspects.

(Part 7 of Strategies for the free fediverses )

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[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have no idea why people are downvoting you but I agree fully.

A lot of folks here dont have much experience with social situations and life in general and it shows.

Studies show that big corporations behave like psychoaths. Lack of remorse, lack of empathy, hostile demeanor and impulsiveness.

Would you invite someone like this to your home and expect everything to be all right afterwards?

In the case of meta its also a psychopath with enough money and lawyers that they could murder you in cold blood and wouldn’t even go to jail so to speak.

Why would we federate with them just to defederate when (not if) they start pushing their agenda through? Ads, one way federation etc.

[–] orgrinrt@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Well, I might have an idea why it’s downvoted so.

While I agree with the sentiment, and as such, upvoted to boost the message, it’s still very combative and needlessly passive-aggressive with its kumbayah and the stereotypical hippie talk, “man”, which really just annoyed and cringed myself too.

But to each their own. I still like to boost if the sentiment is valuable as a pov at least, here I happen to also agree. But the passive-aggressive tone is really uncalled for.

Edit: I read further ahead, and this person in question continues their combative and provocative tone. I’m tempted to recall my upvote just because of this, but it’s a good perspective to consider, so I’ll stick with boosting this specific comment with an upvote (though not the later ones that ramp up the toxicity). But I really do not like the tone.. I can very clearly now see why many would downvote.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 2 points 10 months ago

I agree that combative tone does not make sense in conveying a message and more hinders than anything. But I have done so myself and probably will fall into the same trap here and there. I would argue that it is a good thing to tell someone "I agree in principle but I think you should reconsider your words to strip them of divisive content" or the like.

Psychology tells us that most people mean good, sometimes making the worst mistakes that produce terrible outcomes.

Alas, thank you for elaborating. :)