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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'm torn.

It's bad to pardon family, but at the same time, I'd fully support pardoning a random person who had a no-prison plea deal the judge threw out after the defendant admitted guilt.

Especially when the crime that resulted in a jail time sentence is one that's almost exclusively used as an add-on for violent offenders. Any person with a medical Marijuana card and a gun or who ate half a gummy at a friend's house in a state where it's legal while their gun was locked in a safe at home has committed the same crime.

But it also looks bad for him to pardon his son, and Trump's sycophants will absolutely cling to this.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How it looks is beside the point. If it's moral then it's moral, and people who are looking at it need to deal with it. As for what Trump's sycophants will do, they're going to do crazy s*** anyway.

When judges ignore plea deals, they are asking for people to strip them of power. That's what happened here, the judge deserved what they got. If you can't find justice in the courts, then to hell with the courts.

Noone is criticizing Biden for pardoning his son. Theyre criticizing him for ONLY pardoning his son and doing jack shit besides that. Im happy that his son has someone willing to use the system to help him, i wish the rest of you did too.

[–] AgentDalePoopster@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree with you that the sentencing was incredibly unjust and clearly politically motivated. I'm just incredibly frustrated that Biden is not doing anything that's useful to Americans during his last few months in office.

[–] III@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's a pretty bold assertion that Biden is not doing anything useful to Americans.

Ok. What has he done in his lame duck period, or expressed intention to do, that helps Americans? So far I've seen him double down on helping Israel commit genocide and I've seen him pardon his son. I'm happy to be convinced otherwise but I'm sure not seeing it now.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Unfortunately Biden is known for packing up the slavery prisons with people who in any just country shouldn't be there and keeping them there for the profits of corpos. In this light him pardoning his son is even worse than just nepotistic abuse of power.

Yeah this is a man who committed a minor crime that’s rarely prosecuted who was sentenced because his father is President, he was about to have a real bad time because of who his father is if he wasn’t pardoned. I can’t judge Biden for this. He’d never have pardoned him if someone who would treat him on his own merits was the incoming president

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They'll cling to it but now that Hunter is pardoned all they can do is whine, just as Dems will do after Bonespurs pardons himself. But both will be done deals. Hunter Biden's case will be over - no more wasting congressional time and resources with pointless hearings and investigations.