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[–] FarFarAway@startrek.website -5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Does everyone still feel the same if he turns out to be a neoreactionary / accelerationist?

Per The San Francisco Standard

Mangione gave Ted Kaczynski’s book “Industrial Society and Its Future” four out of five stars, writing that the man known as the Unabomber was “rightfully imprisoned” for “maiming innocent people” but noting that his actions were “those of an extreme political revolutionary.”

Mangione’s social media accounts paint a picture of a tech enthusiast with a soft spot for conservative thinkers. He has retweeted posts from right-wing capitalists like Peter Thiel and lists an applauding biography of Elon Musk as one of his favorites on GoodReads.

[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At that age I had similar ideas. This didn't stop me from turning as leftist as it gets. Anyway it is all irrelevant. He did firebomb the walmart, he did the redacted and that's enough to absolve him from any leftist sin. Don't you dare turn this into yet another culture war.

[–] FarFarAway@startrek.website 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fair take. That wasn't my intention, although, now, I suppose that maybe a natural progression.

I admit, there is definitely a disconnect, considering his actions, but, I really am torn on the idea. I guess, I question that if (and big if) his intention is to build this type of future, would his actions be enough to make others sympathetic to his cause? If, or at what point, people turn away?

[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm Italian. We had a long season of leftist terrorism with popular support. People started feeling alienated when they kidnapped and killed the centrist prime minister because he wanted to ally with the Left. Kneecapping dozens of CEOS just won the terrorists more and more support.

Also sympathy to causes is different from power. We should be concerned less with how an action impacts public opinions and more on how it impacts power structures, potential for action and mobilization.

[–] FarFarAway@startrek.website 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The future vice president of America is close with the leaders of the neoreactionary movement. I suppose, I wonder if a positive public opinion would make it easier for them to mobilize.

Edit: ending up with support from both sides of the isle.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yes. I don't understand why the right will excuse pedophilia and mass murder, but the left will throw somebody under the bus if the follow the wrong person on shitter.

Applaud the actions, do not create a hero. Nobody will live up to those expectations for everybody.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

Because the transnational white power movement believes in loyalty over principle like any other dangerous cult. If you are an ally, you could eat children and would still be favored.

And if you're in the outgroup, then they pretend as if you eat children.

They're not interested in governance but culling the population, so they're choosing people who are unpersoned by fiat.

If we wanted something different, we shouldn't have voted in the monarchists. Now King Heron is in power and it's frog-eating season.

[–] FarFarAway@startrek.website 2 points 1 week ago

That's a sensible way to look at it. People's actions can be separate from thier outlook, and that's ok.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Have you seen his abs?

Besides which, it's difficult to say violence is wrong when we tolerate apatheticly so much systemic violence.

And with the new administration we're expecting to see so much more with mass deportations and killing our already meager social safety nets.

We're always three skipped meals from mass riots that overwhelm responders. It's an exciting time to be alive.

[–] FarFarAway@startrek.website 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[–] noxy@yiffit.net 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yeah but if it turns out this is the guy, I think actions speak louder than words.

[–] FarFarAway@startrek.website 2 points 1 week ago

It could just be the tech culture he was around, and not the actual reasoning. Guess we'll have to wait and see.