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Meta is asking California Attorney General Rob Bonta to block OpenAI’s planned transition from a non-profit to for-profit entity.

In a letter sent to Bonta’s office this week, Meta says that OpenAI “should not be allowed to flout the law by taking and reappropriating assets it built as a charity and using them for potentially enormous private gains.”

The letter, which was first reported on by The Wall Street Journal and you can read in full below, goes so far as to say that Meta believes Elon Musk is “qualified and well positioned to represent the interests of Californians in this matter.” Meta supporting Musk’s fight against OpenAI is notable given that Musk and Mark Zuckerberg were talking about literally fighting in a cage match just last year.

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 127 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Just cos meta supports it doesnt mean its bad. The enemy of my enemy etc etc

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And they make a valid point. Imagine if all startups started as non profit, raised their assets with tax reduction, and then decided to go for profit when it suited them? That’s tax evasion.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Thats a great idea u mind if i steal it?

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 78 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I mean zuck and musk don’t want it because it removes an extra hoop that OpenAI has to jump through to compete, but all said and done fuck all three of them for taking another leap in human achievement and making it a “profit for investors at any cost.” And fuck OpenAI especially for pretending that wasn’t the case all along

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And fuck OpenAI especially for pretending that wasn’t the case all along

I'm not sure they were ever pretending. I saw another Lemmy post about the Musk-OpenAI email exchanges from 8 years ago.

They seemed very open that the long term plan was to become a for profit company. They said they weren't ready yet and rejected Elon's demand to make him majority owner and merge with Tesla.

[–] Loduz_247@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

Elon's biggest enemy is his own ego and wanting to be relevant

[–] Jaybob32@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Open AI got a taste of that Microsoft money and everything changed. Well Sam changed course which had a lot to do with the fact that he was fired for 3 days. I do believe in the beginning they fully intended to be non profit and open.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They always planned to be for profit. It wasn't a taste of MS money, it was the plan to sell out from the beginning. Musk got mad because they didn't sell out to him for pennies.

"OpenAI wrote in the blog that the company and Musk both agreed that a for-profit was the next step for the startup in the fall of 2017. But when Musk failed to win majority equity, OpenAI accused him of walking away and saying the company would "fail." "

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/openai-publishes-more-elon-musks-004549026.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABRINM4BbU2net5_AGrEJMONXSl3cnYa2geFWsFyz_5Gbs6vyn8uNrnb6NXn5jmLViXMbro8ns8iS6LlgDuWaazRNEM1AQRia29Gl8ZN-s8elRtWmgdjol4ybPUge96HpsxrNWRBi2JJNkc-xnFJdbo_rCff2MVQ5q8DPJtICSIo

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

pretty sure enemy of my enemy is still my enemy

[–] Zyrxil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The enemy of my enemy is a useful temporary ally.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

it's like two bears fighting for the right to eat me alive 🥲