OpenAI was a nonprofit?!?
this post was submitted on 14 Dec 2024
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It's a bit more complicated than that.
I think there's a for-profit part of the business and a non-profit part.
The non-profit part used to own the for profit with a majority stake afaik
don't just block them. force all AI companies that use online content for research to move to a nonprofit and require them to provide their source code openly.
tax payer dollars paid to create that content so that means that AI is tax payer bought.
don't like it? train your models on a closed network that's behind a paywall.
Dont limit this to AI companies. All social media companies should be forced to become nonprofits and their code AGPL'd
But the AGPL does not prevent you from doing commercial activities
Being nonprofit also doesn't prevent you from doing commercial activities.
But i think the idea would be if they are forced to be nonprofit and their code open-sourced then there is now transparency in how their LLMs are trained and operate.
But it's a bit silly to try to make AI companies nonprofits to begin with since they could just go to another country with "better" laws if they are punished too heavily in one country.
People gotta eat. There's nothing wrong with selling open source software
The most important part is that the people and the government can see how the suggestion and feed algorithms are written, so they they can make them change them if they're found to lead to increased harm, such as suicides.
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They love small government and maximum Freedom until they want the government to restrict somebody's freedom.
I've remembered Babylon 5 season 4 today. Specifically the part where the "good" Vorlons and the "bad" Shadows started erasing the shit out of worlds inhabited by lesser races who made the wrong choice of having traces of the opposing side.
Point being, you are being sarcastic about Republicans and rightfully so, but Clinton administration is the one that introduced mass surveillance in the USA, and now in Syria CNN praises HTS (Sunni jihadis) and Fox News highlight SDF (secular socialists). Though from what I've read, apparently they really honestly talk to each other, which is a surprising kind of coexistence, HTS leader's words I took with scepticism, but SDF leaders too say they have no problem with HTS. HTS is a mix of ex-al-Qaeda and ex-ISIS, that's how strange this is.
OK, politics again.
On the subject - I think turning a non-profit into for-profit while not letting go of datasets and such, legally allowed to be assembled in the context of it being non-profit, is kinda theft. So Facebook is right here. Circumstantially of course.
Meta sucks, but here they are very right
Meta is just trying to protect their intellectual property, meaning everything anyone has created on any of their platforms.
Yep, they own all of it, including every single comment anyone has written on Whatsapp.
they're also making their own ai and don't want openai to keep being better
Meta sucks, but here they are very ~~right~~ hypocritical*
Don't worry fam I got you
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Ironic they are demanding government regulation / interdiction.
Big corp loves regulation of its competition most of all.
Just cos meta supports it doesnt mean its bad. The enemy of my enemy etc etc
And they make a valid point. Imagine if all startups started as non profit, raised their assets with tax reduction, and then decided to go for profit when it suited them? That’s tax evasion.
Thats a great idea u mind if i steal it?
Yeah I mean zuck and musk don’t want it because it removes an extra hoop that OpenAI has to jump through to compete, but all said and done fuck all three of them for taking another leap in human achievement and making it a “profit for investors at any cost.” And fuck OpenAI especially for pretending that wasn’t the case all along
And fuck OpenAI especially for pretending that wasn’t the case all along
I'm not sure they were ever pretending. I saw another Lemmy post about the Musk-OpenAI email exchanges from 8 years ago.
They seemed very open that the long term plan was to become a for profit company. They said they weren't ready yet and rejected Elon's demand to make him majority owner and merge with Tesla.
Elon's biggest enemy is his own ego and wanting to be relevant
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Fuck Meta. Fuck OpenAI.
But maybe they can fuck each other a bit?
"Let them ~~fight~~ fuck"
Love it when I can upvote an entire comment chain.
90% of Facebook content is AI generated content now. I cant even see what my friends are doing anymore. Makes me want to just delete it. But, I do occasionally see stuff from family and friends, which is the only reason I keep it. Some people I only stay in touch with through Facebook. But seriously, fuck that company.
You won't miss it, you think you will but you honestly won't.
Here's a thought. Leave Facebook and spend more time with family and friends wether it be in person, on the phone or over text. You'll feel better for doing it and your family will be happy to hear from you. Deleted mine close to 10 years ago and have never had a desire to go back.
Getting rid of Facebook was easily one of the best things I've done. The people that are important will find other ways to reach out.
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Pull the plug, you won’t look back.
Hey, you left reddit, didn't you? Do you miss that?
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let them fight
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