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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 15 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Idk everyone is doing the "he was killed but

The medical examiner’s office determined the manner of death to be suicide and police officials this week said there is “currently, no evidence of foul play.”

Isn't it possible the guy was troubled and just actually killed himself?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can't see the forest for the trees.

The problem isn't that this guy might have killed himself. The problem is that the death rate of whistleblowers is very high. That makes every individual case much more suspect, and should be held to higher standards of scrutiny. And they aren't. So we complain.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm just saying assuming this was a murder seems premature. Thinking this is sus makes more sense

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 6 points 3 days ago

There's also the possibility of him receiving threats so horrible he was coerced into suicide. "No foul play" just seems so incredibly unlikely.

[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

People fall out of Russian windows everyday, no one know why.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

People also kill themselves daily (well those who succeed do it just the once)

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

its most certainly possible. but its also possible it was not since billions of dollars are at stake.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -1 points 3 days ago

Yes I just mean that I wouldn't consider it a murder without any indication of it being one

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Sure, sure. Epstein surely did hang himself.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He was a king pedo going to prison for the rest of his life and had tried kill himself before. I definitely would've tried to kill myself given the chance tbh

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If you read up on that incident though, so many things had to go wrong for him to have an opportunity to do it while locked up that it's really hard to not consider foul play no matter what the prison or the government says about it.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Right. At best, he wasn't killed, he was just intentionally given the tools and time to do so.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -1 points 3 days ago

There's a difference between him having been murdered and giving him the opportunity to kill himself. Second case would mean that he actually did hang himself

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

When you consider the billions that are at stake in cramming "AI" into computers, cars, phones, agit-prop generation and military hardware, I there's a non-zero chance that his death wasn't accidental. Maybe a second coroner's opinion is in order.