cross-posted to: https://sh.itjust.works/post/12856684
I have the following topology:
The device running Nextcloud (snap) used to be connected to Router A, but I have recently added a bridge (Router B) and I moved Nextcloud's device to that bridged network; however, as soon as Nextcloud was moved to Router B, the portforward on Router A seemed to stop working -- as in I cannot connect to nexcloud from the public IP anymore. Bridges operate at layer 2, so this should make no difference whatsoever (this is reflected in the fact that other services (like SSH) still work perfectly fine portforwarded -- it's only Nextcloud that doesn't work), which leads me to think that it is a Layer 7 (i.e. Nextcloud) issue. What's going on here? How can Nextcloud even tell that it's been placed on a bridged network?
EDIT (2024-01-16T00:19Z):
I performed a network capture on the device running Nextcloud, and it appears that it's receiving the incoming request (SYN), and responds appropriately (SYN, ACK), but then Router B responds with Destination unreachable (Network unreachable), which is then, of course, followed by many requests for retransmission as the packets are being dropped. But what's causing the packets to be dropped? Why aren't they making it through the network?
EDIT (2024-01-25T08:37Z):
I’m not 100% sure what the previous problem was, but I think that it had to do with the bridge that I was using – not necessarily that it was broken, but perhaps it was jsut incompatible with the setup in some way. What I ended up doing was buying a different router that supported WDS, and then I created a WDS bridge between the two routers. The network seems to be working reliably, and as expected now.
~~Interesting, lan zone doesn't allow forward from wan but wan does allow both ways, maybe that's the one missing. I expect OpenWRT to wire it up both ways automatically... OpenWRT is a mystery sometimes.~~
Actually no, both show unspecified. You need both zones to allow both ways from the other zone.
I'm now encountering another issue where I can't ping any external IP's. I don't mean that DNS isn't resolving (I set that on Router B to use Router A as the DNS resolver), but the I can't ping, say,
google.com, for example, from a device on Router B. I can see the ICMP requests in Wireshark, but they just say "no response".Erm, okay that's not looking promising. It's starting to look like Router A doesn't like this setup at all. It's not routing B's traffic, possibly because it's not the subnet it expects to serve. Ugh. Check all the options you can in Router A if you can find something that will allow it to work.
You can fairly easily test that by enabling masquerading on B. It'll break most of what we just set up but it'll confirm that.
We still have some options on the OpenWRT side to make it masquerade only public traffic but now I'm wondering if A will even let you port forward to something on B. I would try that now and see if it works.
Is A able to ping B and devices on B, or only on A? A itself has a route for B's subnet right?
I really appreciate all the help that you provided in this thread! To simplify the setup, I bought a different primary router, flashed OpenWRT to it, then set up a WDS bridge between it and the other router. So far, I've had no issues, and the setup has been greatly simplified. I'm, of course, still curious as to why the previous setup wasn't working, but at least everything is working now.
Alright, I now am able to ping a device on Router B from a device on Router A, but I'm still not able to ping a device on Router A from a device on Router B.
Here's the firewall settings for Router B:
lan zone:
wan zone:
EDIT:
Scratch that! apparently it is working. I could've sworn that I checked the ping. Maybe I subconciously applied something else.