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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 52 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Was reading through the thread and holy shit I swear half the comments are anti fediverse propaganda.

I wonder how long till the post gets removed.

Edit: would it be immoral for me to mass bot the thread with AI powered pro fediverse propaganda?

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Aside from what Blaze mentioned, that's also not really the kind of publicity that we want. Better to just respond to individual users and encourage them to try Lemmy out.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We should really avoid antromorphizing non-humans. Call them bots, like most of them probably are.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In some spaces, that term is becoming really dehumanizing. People use “bot” to label anything they disagree with.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sure, but I was being literal. A non-negligible number of those comments are likely being automated.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm quite certain that reddit has millions of bot accounts that repost old content and leverage AI to make human sounding comments. They serve two purposes, to simulate activity and interaction, and to disrupt discussions that reddit doesn't approve of, such as those about Lemmy or certain political issues.

Why wouldn't they? It's a very simple decision for them, they need to protect their money and the shareholders money, and they'll do whatever they have to in order to accomplish that objective.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

That's my impression as well. The activity over there doesn't align with the numbers

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

would it be immoral for me to mass bot the thread with AI powered pro fediverse propaganda?

You can try, but you'll probably get flagged

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

U would be surprised what u can do with an account list a proxy list and a tor connection.

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

why not, ik a lot of ppl are upset with reddit rnow and they prob think lemmy isnt ready, I thought it was bad because of old preconceptions and I never heard about it on reddit, only after I got banned from reddit did I even see that lemmy still existed, had a userbase, and was running without issues now

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They also make you think lemmy is like voat or other right wing stuff when the user base here is more like reddit when it was good, far less controversial

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The worst part of browsing reddit imo, you cant block a subreddit, you downvote posts, it shows up more, no way to hide it from any feed, my subscribed feed showed me tons of subs not relevant to me that I wasn't subbed to after they made the api changes and got rid of the other apps. It felt like they wanted me to open the app and be upset about something everyday when I was just trying to look at what I was subscribed to. (3d, animation, edm, etc. not subbed to any of the main subs, would still see them)

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Welcome here, feel free if you have any questions!

A few pointers

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I really do hope the fediverse takes off, its what I thought the internet would be like when I first got an email and used it as a kid, its wild to me that it's even possible, an actual interconnected network

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago
[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

they got me with the propoganda forsure, it seemed complicated was actually super simple, every comment will act like its so hard to swap over or signup when once you do look it up you immediately see why its better at its core

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I never played WoW or anything like that, but aren't there several WoW servers and you have to decide which one to be on when you start the game? People managed that.

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

Yep, and it's not even fully federated. Different servers have also quite a bit different focus.

I will steal from now on WoW comparison when talking about the fediverse!

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

explaining the fediverse would be you join different servers but can still play together?

I still prefer the email analogy with explaining how it works. The WoW analogy is for the people who say "That's too complicated for the unwashed masses to understand." People have been signing up for World of Warcraft going on three decades now, I think they'll figure out lemmy.world vs sh.itjust.works.

[–] Die4Ever@programming.dev 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Was reading through the thread and holy shit I swear half the comments are anti fediverse propaganda.

Some comments are suspiciously skeptical. If they were this skeptical before joining then they never would've joined Reddit lol. Someone just tried to tell me that the report button on Lemmy doesn't do anything.

https://old.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1i6rp3o/decentralized_social_media_is_the_only/m8i99k6/?context=9

And people talking about bots too lol Reddit will literally repost a 1 year old post with identical title and copy-paste the top 100 comments from the original too, talk about bots! And they aren't labeled as bots! At least bots here are labeled and you can hide them all instantly.

And then they ask for extreme details on how everything works and try to become a master at it before even signing up. Is that how they signed up for Reddit and Discord? I doubt it.

No way these people were that closed-minded and stubborn when they were signing up for Reddit.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

People are scared of new things and grow complacent once they find their place in a community or on an app, in this case. It's the same reason people will argue to death about needing Instagram, Tiktok, Facebook, whatever, and not leave any of them