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Google says it will change Gulf of Mexico to 'Gulf of America' in Maps after government updates (www.cnbc.com)
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[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not legal

[–] RxBrad@infosec.pub 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Obama renamed Mt. McKinley to Denali by executive order. Trump is using executive order to rename it back.

Biden outlawed oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico. Trump used executive order to rename it so the Gulf of Mexico "doesn't exist". (EDIT: Actually the naming appears to be unrelated to this. The drilling ban was specifically reversed in a different executive order that reversed several Biden EOs)

It's all questionable use of executive order. But which party is going to step up and say "the last guy did it, but our guy shouldn't be able to ignore checks & balances anymore"?

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The difference is that it's intentional waters and the International Hydrographic Organization is in charge of standardizing the names.

[–] RxBrad@infosec.pub 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The IHO proposes names which world nations may or may not use.

Such is the case with the "Southern Ocean" around Antarctica since the early 2000s, which is randomly recognized & not recognized by world nations.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It still requires Congress to pass legislation. I think they would have to leave the organization entirely or amend the resolution to join it and recognize it's naming convention. The executive order is illegal.

[–] RxBrad@infosec.pub 7 points 2 days ago

I don't disagree.

But recent interpretation of the use of executive order is hurtling toward the president having near-monarch authority

So, until the reach of executive orders gets reigned in... here we are.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Actually very little of the gilf falls into international waters

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago

gilf

I've heard of MILFs... but i've only seen GILFs in Japan. That's not the geography we're discussing here.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

A line joining Cape Catoche Light (21°37′N 87°04′W) with the Light on Cape San Antonio in Cuba, through this island to the meridian of 83°W and to the Northward along this meridian to the latitude of the South point of the Dry Tortugas (24°35'N), along this parallel Eastward to Rebecca Shoal (82°35'W) thence through the shoals and Florida Keys to the mainland at the eastern end of Florida Bay and all the narrow waters between the Dry Tortugas and the mainland being considered to be within the Gulf.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Biden outlawed oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico. Trump used executive order to rename it so the Gulf of Mexico “doesn’t exist”.

I'd be very surprised if all laws/treaties cease to exist if you just rename the "counterparty"/location. Declare Mexico to be named South Texas, and laws no longer apply there?

[–] RxBrad@infosec.pub 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Probably true.

But until a court actually steps up to say it, it's the Wild West out there. And as soon as this gets shot down, another executive order will get wedged back in there to keep the rigs drilling.

EDIT: Apparently the naming had nothing to do with drilling. The drilling ban was already specifically reversed in a different executive order that reversed several Biden EOs