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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/53805638

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[–] shortrounddev@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah that's why the Soviet union outcompeted capitalism in the 1980s lmao

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That you had to qualify it with a date after it had been corrupted by the west, implies that you’re well aware of how well communism served for half a century before that.

They went from a nation of dirt poor peasants, to a nuclear superpower driving the space race in just a couple of decades. All thanks to communism. And also why China is leaving us in the dust.

[–] houstoneulers@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

There are many instances of communism failing lmao

There are also many current communist states that have less freedom than many capitalist states

Also, you need to ask the Uyghurs how they're feeling about their experience under the communist government you're speaking so highly of at the moment.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 day ago

you need to ask the Uyghurs how they’re feeling about their experience under the communist government

Everytime people ask regular Uyghurs, they're usually happy enough with it. I'm guessing you mean ask Adrian Zenz and the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation to tell the Uyghurs what they think.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How many of those instances failed due to external factors, such as illegal sanctions or a western coup or western military aggression?

Which communist states would you say have less freedom than your country? Let’s compare.

The Uyghur genocide was debunked. Even the US state department was forced to admit they didn’t have the evidence to support their claims. In reality, western intelligence agencies were trying to radicalize the Uyghurs to destabilize the region, but China has been rehabilitating them. The intel community doesn’t like their terrorist fronts to be shut down.

[–] threshold_dweller@lemmy.today 0 points 2 days ago

Its smells like wumao in here.

[–] houstoneulers@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

LMAO found the pro-Xi propagandist account

Either you're brainwashed, are only reading one-sided articles, or you're an adolescent with little world experience given how confidently you speak in absolutes, which doesn't reflect how nuanced the global stage is.

I'm not saying capitalism is the best, but communism won't ALWAYS beat out capitalism (as it hasn't regardless of external factors b/c if those regimes were strong enough they would be able to handle or recover from external pressures) nor does it REQUIRE negatively affecting others as your other comment says. You're just delulu.

Remember, while there maybe instances where all versions of a certain class of anything are equal, in most cases they are not. So blanketly categorizing as your have done just reflects your lack of historical perspective.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

You should really drop the overconfidence, and re-evaluate your biases and perspectives. Regurgitating western propaganda almost verbatim is not a good sign that you’re on the right path.

[–] shortrounddev@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah just had to genocide a few million Ukrainians to get there!

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Any corrupt leaders are capable of committing genocide. The difference is capitalism requires genocide to continue functioning.

[–] shortrounddev@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

LoL. What boot? I’m advocating for worker control, genius.

[–] shortrounddev@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago

Communism is the original bootlicking

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No it doesn't. It requires imperialism. The genocides are simply efficient for the imperial machine creating settlements, but it's not a requirement. They're evidently avoidable and capitalists just repeatedly decide not to avoid it because they consider it cheaper to commit genocide rather than integrate more passively.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

Imperialism requires genocide. Where do you think the people from that land go to?