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No records means an adversary can't pull off an entire lifetime of communication history if a device is compromised. Signal is not the medium in which I'm interested in keeping records.
I see. I just don't have adversaries, and if they got hold of the memes and inane conversations I have about whose turn it is to pick up the kid from school then good luck to them.
If you don't have adversaries then why not use SMS? Though this just ends up with the tired old "if you have nothing to hide" argument that I'm not really interested in repeating.
Those examples also don't sound like things you'll need to look up months or years down the line, either. So why not just let them fade away?
SMS is inconvenient and expensive and I can't really send SMS messages from desktop. I use IM because it's more convenient, not because it's more secure, though it's a neat bonus.
And why would you not be looking that up months or years down the line? Why would you want to trash it?
I use signal for real time communication. Which is mostly casual bullshit or organizing. What exactly would I want to look up beyond say a week's time? In-person and phone conversations fade away all the same.
Because I don't want someone going over long-term records of my chats if my devices are ever compromised. I consider those conversations private and would rather they were forgotten than leaked.
Uhm, anything and everything? Like what "casual bullshit" you were up to or what you were "organising"?
So you don't even wish you could preserve those?
That's crazy to me how different some people's idea of social relations is. Well you do you! Thanks for explaining!
I'm honestly curious and your answer just parroted what I said without explanation. Are you just sitting around reading conversations from months ago for entertainment or something? What value are you getting out of keeping chats from years ago?
Not in the slightest. For what purpose would I want that? I'm not making a This American Life podcast using my inane conversations.
No not really, not outside of if I'm reminiscing with the person the convo was with (see examples in my other comments ITT), but I will ctrl+f and find info that way of something they said to me for sure.
Access to information? Not deleting things I might need or that might be useful later? Memories? Records of things that happened?
Kind of the same reason you'd keep a diary, but without the effort of actually writing anything in one. What's even the point of writing anything if it's just gonna be gone in like a week?
What value are you getting out of deleting them? Are you low on storage or something? Or some sort of minimal living life-in-my-backpack type?
Monetary value isn't the only kind of value to me I guess. Different strokes.
We are all but dust, my friend.
I already gave my reasons. I don't want a history of my conversations that can be leaked. I enjoy my privacy. And I have no other reasons to keep them. I was just looking for an actual reason to keep these because I just don't get it. And I guess you've got nothing to offer there. Which is fine, I was just trying to understand.
Implying that the only value I recognize is monetary? Don't be a dick.
That's very fatalistic. In the end, unfortunately, for now, maybe, but that doesn't mean the journey doesn't have memories worth making and things worth keeping, especially when it comes to our bonds with others, and especially when it's just undeniably useful, or we'd never have invented writing.
I mean I gave the reasons many times over? From personal to purely practical. If they don't seem to have value to you, that's on you. I don't know what else you want?
You're the one who said you'd keep them for a podcast? I'm sorry, I don't mean to be a dick, i was just going off what you said.