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[–] smeg@feddit.uk 72 points 3 days ago (10 children)

I don't do modern consoles, do people consider 30fps acceptable?

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The majority of people playing don't know the difference. I am shocked there won't be a 60fps mode, i can't remember the last time I've been forced to play at 30fps outside of playing older games locked to it.

[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I would imagine the game is at the highest possible graphic fidelity for consoles, and also the scale of the game will have a factor.

Remember. Gta V came out 12 years ago. It didn't run at 60fps on any console until the PS5

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, i know, for myself I didn't really get to experience it until 2016 when I built myself a PC with mid range specs and then when I got the ps4 pro in like 2018. I say it's one of those things where once you get to have it, you never wanna go back.

[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah. I have a PS5 and I heard gta 6 won't launch on PC right away, but then I heard it is coming to PC lol. So idk. I'm almost hitting 40 and playing on my couch and tv has been more fun lately. But sometimes I just know a game will run much better on my PC.

What I should do is put my current build into a super small box with an external PSU and just install steam os and hook it up to my tv

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's not shocking, when you consider the level of graphical fidelity they'll be pushing on screen.

The more detail you add, the lower the framerate, on any given hardware. They will be balancing "oh my God!" level graphics, with playable frame rates. The fact they're shooting for such a relatively low frame rate, shows how hard they're pushing the hardware.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 2 days ago

Very rare to see 30fps games on PS5 that don't have a performance option to get to 60.

Especially action games.

A stable 30 fps is perfectly playable for most people, yes

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Absolutely not. I don’t remember the last time I played a game without 60fps performance option on my PS5

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Same, even on my old GPU I'd adjust quality until I got stable 60, otherwise no thanks.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 5 points 2 days ago

Not me. I think it's insane to ship a PS5 game that performs that poorly even on non-"pro" consoles

[–] MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

From what i have seen, 60fps is acceptable for High Settings, 30fps is acceptable when Ray tracing is turned on

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

For most people the further they sit away from a screen the less they are going to notice it. And console gamers play on a tv from the couch. Of course if you show them a 60fps version after they played in 30fps they will notice but most people don’t understand why that is and thus not care. Like how many people watch movies with motion smoothing on since they don’t see that it looks smoother than the movies in the cinema.

Rockstar can get away with this since the vast majority of GTA player will be mainstream casual gamers that only have fifa/madden and CoD in their gaming collection.

[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Most don't, the people who say they don't realize it probably also say that "there's no difference between 1080p and 4k!"

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, 30fps is fine, and expected even if you're also expecting ultra realistic graphics. This expectation that people have of games being 60 fps and being stupid realistic is nonsense. You want realistic graphics and reflections when a game is first released, your gonna get 30 fps. And honestly, you can hardly tell the difference anyway.

Edit: Always expect the downvotes when I say this. The people in gaming subs, almost never understand how games are developed. Just demand without understanding the limitations of hardware and software.

[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Some games go to 120fps and are actually realistic.

GTA was never about realism, it just had a huge open world with tons of things to do.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

None that I've ever seen. It takes a lot of work to get good graphics even for 60 fps, a lot of optimization, that depending on the type of game, might be very expensive and time consuming to do.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, 40 and 50 look good enough though, idk why people like 30 as a standard

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

It's a number that divides easily into 120, which mattered more for old TVs, and it's far enough over the threshold to trick our minds into seeing a bunch of still frames as a moving thing.