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Women STEM students up to twice as likely as non-STEM students to have experienced sexism (www.hepi.ac.uk)

submitted 10 months ago by stopthatgirl7@kbin.social to c/technology@lemmy.world

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We know that women students and staff remain underrepresented in Higher Education STEM disciplines. Even in subjects where equivalent numbers of men and women participate, however, many women are still disadvantaged by everyday sexism. Our recent research found that women who study STEM subjects at undergraduate level in England were up to twice as likely as non-STEM students to have experienced sexism. The main perpetrators of this sexism were not university staff, however, but were men STEM degree students.

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[–] ourob@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Source? The Yale link above specifically mentions:

Nationally, women make up 57.3% of bachelor’s degree recipients but only 38.6% of STEM bachelor’s degree recipients.

Anecdotally, I was in a STEM-focused school and major over 20 years ago, and it was overwhelming male-dominated. One of my colleagues graduated less than 10 years ago, and her experience was not dissimilar. She had to deal with quite a bit of sexism too, unfortunately.

[+] blahsay@lemmy.world -20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Your own damn link contradicts that bullshit stem bachelor degree stat.

I'd search for another but people shooting themselves in the foot amuses me to no end 😂

[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What are you even going on about? It literally says:

Women represent 57.3% of undergraduates but only 38.6% of STEM undergraduates

That means women are obtaining most of their degrees via non-STEM studies.

Women represent 52% of the college-educated workforce, but only 29% of the science and engineering workforce.

And that is reflected in the study's figures for employment as well.

I’d search for another but people shooting themselves in the foot amuses me to know end

Well let's look over the score here. Someone has provided two different links to back up their argument and you've provided… Oh look, none. You're making claims and pointing out things that clearly do not exist or are anecdotal. Nothing you have done in the last three comments indicates to anyone that any of us should take anything you have to say with any kind of value.

So I guess you are amused to know [sic] end, but a point or logical argument you have not made. But hey if you thinking you took the W here and that keeps you quiet, then good job you totally owned everyone here. Amazing wordsmithing.

[+] blahsay@lemmy.world -13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Your Yale link is nonsense as I think you're aware. Your original link shows a closer stat to reality though it's based on 2020 data - currently stem is predominantly female.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6759027/

Interesting; you have to dig past the usual misandry sites to find an impartial source but Pew research found 53% of stem graduates female in 2018 and rising.

https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2021/04/01/stem-jobs-see-uneven-progress-in-increasing-gender-racial-and-ethnic-diversity/

You can also just check unis individually.

[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well I mean, do you read the links you provide?

While women now account for 57% of bachelor's degrees across fields and 50% of bachelor's degrees in science and engineering broadly (including social and behavioral sciences), they account for only 38% of bachelor's degrees in traditional STEM fields (i.e., engineering, mathematics, computer science, and physical sciences; Table 1).

There's where your 50% comes from. And as you can see, your link also aligns with the 38.6% previously mentioned.

See? Now was that hard? See how once you explained yourself we could clear up the confusion you were having? Nothing wrong with that, easy to be confused by the various terms that are being tossed around.

[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago

Interesting; you have to dig past the usual misandry sites to find an impartial source but Pew research found 53% of stem graduates female in 2018 and rising

I mean, at this point you're just cherry picking and not doing all that well with it. As indicated from, again YOUR source.

The gender dynamics in STEM degree attainment mirror many of those seen across STEM job clusters. For instance, women earned 85% of the bachelor’s degrees in health-related fields, but just 22% in engineering and 19% in computer science

That lines up with the whole thing I had mentioned here. You keep wishing otherwise, but you also keep providing evidence to the contrary.

So I mean at some point I guess you'll read your own sources OR you won't. But the sources you keep providing agree with the original statement that women are under represented in traditional STEM studies. So I mean you square that with yourself however you want.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Dude is crying about misandry. 🎻

[–] LWD@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] blahsay@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"Women earned 53% of STEM college degrees in 2018, smaller than their 58% share of all college degrees." - Pew research

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

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[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, so you are wrong. That is not predominantly. That is in stem overall, in most stem subjects, they are underrepresented.

[–] blahsay@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago

As you said 'there is a slight over-representation of women in STEM (degrees earned) overall'

My statement was that there's more women in stem at uni these days.

These seem to align to me.