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Unix, Linux, whats the diff? Its all the same.
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That license does nothing.
Your comments aren’t licensed because you put something in them. It’s stopping nothing. Licensing is an agreement, and requires parties to consent. You don’t just magically force licenses onto people.
If this was real I could license my comments where if you read them, you owe me 10k.
This is the digital equivalent of sovereign citizens.
So, if I go to a library, pick a book and start reading it, I am then free to completely copy it because I didn’t agree to any licensing?
You agreed to the ToS given by the library.
Hence why you have to get a library card to check out a book.
I don’t think it’s equivalent to sovereign citizens. OP is the author of their comment and therefore has the copyrights. As the author one can license their work as all rights reserved or other permissive licenses.
OP chooses to license their work as Creative Commons.
They’re not forcing you to accept the license, it’s your local government that enforces copyright.
The reason why this might work on Lemmy but not on corporate Social media is that corporate social media often have terms of service that require you to give them ownership/rights/etc. Lemmy has no such ToC.
Actually, Safe Harbor laws would encompass social media sites as well, so it would work there as well.
Either corporations own the content you post and are responsible for it, or they just host your content you post that you own and are immune from harm for the content. The law is currently the latter, and not the former.
Also, law trumps ToS's.
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I don’t think the ToS approach would be invalidated here via your Safe Harbor fork theory.
The ToS could state something like “you give us a worldwide perpetual right to use your content in any way we want including granting this right to whom we designate”
You still own your content but by having an account you agree to the ToS that lets them do what they want.
They just host it and are safe.
woosh
In case you want your license declaration to look the same as mine (instead of just being a quote), you can copy and paste in the following text ...
[~This~ ~comment~ ~is~ ~licensed~ ~under~ ~CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0~](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode.en)
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It makes me feel good. That's something.
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Can't argue with that. I'm glad you've found something that you enjoy.
Well, I'd enjoy it more if people (in general) stopped bothering me about using a license for my content, than I actually do using a license for my content. 😜
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Do you spend a lot of time arguing with people over it?
Allot more than I wish, I really try not to. Even today, I keep asking people to not rehash it, and lets just talk about the topic my comment was posted in. But for some strange reason people just won't let it go, and push to talk about it.
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I am getting annoyed on your behalf lol. Why do people feel the need to screech at others doing something harmless when they could just shut up and ignore it is beyond me. Not a fair comparison but it does feel like republicans shouting at trans people.
I feel like it somehow relates to Cunningham's Law but i can't figure out how to articulate it.
Thanks, appreciate the support!
It's amazing how bent out of shape some people get about this, both currently, as well as about tenish months ago when I last was on Lemmy (check out my comment history from that time period if you really want to get annoyed).
I got to imagine that its people who want to farm the comments for their LLMs training, that are trying to prevent the popular usage of people licensing their content.
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And I'm assuming just having "all content licesed under the CC BY-NC-SA 4.0" in your bio wouldn't work?
I'm not sure if I understand your question.
I believe it does work. Or at least it should, and I shouldn't give up my right to license my own content just because enforcement of laws is lax.
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Well, scrapers probably would ignore it.
Honestly I don't believe it would help myself but who am I to tell you what to do. As someone else mentioned, it's probably people who simply have to correct others when they don't share the option. Doubt it would be anything like being in support of LLMs, probably the opposite.
It would help if the companies that are training their LLMs honor content creators licenses. If they ignore the law in that, then it would in theory need to be policed.
In either case, its a quick copy/paste on my part, so /shrug.
I don't know. It would behoove those who need our content to train their LLMs to intimidate/redirect people away from licensing their content. And I can't imagine regular people getting so caught up to spend so much time on this issue. If you look through my comment history, starting 9-10 months ago, and see how many replies I've gotten, and even how posts talk about this issue (https://lemmy.world/post/14942506), I can't imagine a single link would cause all of that. Theres got to be something more to it than that.
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I was thinking "okay this somewhat unconventional but whatever" until I read this. Use greasemonkey or something for the love of Christ!
I love the idea of licensing comments XD
The return of the forum signatures, whether you like it or not.
Mines going to be an ad from NordVPN and maybe Apex Legends? I wonder what's their rate like? 🤷♂️
You're probably the only one, but thank you for saying that. 🙂
why though?
Does the lack of licensing in this comment mean it's okay to steal?
Nope, the opposite: in the absence of an explicit license, the default is "all rights reserved."
I don't think just thanking someone is real content. /shrug
(Edit: I also declare all that I post/comment is licensed by me as well, in my user account description area.)
But answering someone who thinks they are being funny or annoying, by explaining things to them, would be considered content by me.
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I kind of suspected it might be something like that, but it was a genuine query that, yes, was intended to be mildly humorous. I don't intentionally annoy except maybe my wife.
Your indirect accusation made me smirk, but as far as I've noticed you're the only one who does this without doing it on every comment, which seemed interesting enough to observe.
Yeah, I tend to push back a bit, as I wish people would discuss the subject at hand that the comment by me was made about, and not the license that I used in my comment.
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Ah. Well, I have questions or comments I could make about the license. However, while I feel passionately about Unix and Linux and OSS in general, I don't think I have anything useful or interesting to add to the thread that hasn't already been said.
I wish you luck both with finding engaging conversation and with your licensing.
A little passive-aggressive of you 😜 but I'm betting you could find answers to your questions if you looked through my comment history, starting about 10ish months ago. There was ALLOT of conversation about it at that time. You'd probably also see the kind of comments you'd make already made as well, saving you some time.
That's fine, I didn't mean to suggest that you personally (vs others) had to comment on the subject at hand, just that I wish I would only have to respond to comments of the subject at hand.
And may you have a GREAT day today!
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That's a fair interpretation, but in fact I was trying to avoid the appearance of passive aggression by providing a reason for my exiting the conversation, rather than just bailing.
Well, I was saying that mostly in jest (hence the 😜 ).
Take care.
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You are not new to lemmy, it says you registered a year ago, but is this the first time you meet a comment with license info? You are one of today's lucky 10000.
I've seen this on multiple users, usually it's some anti ai license. Like the laws stopped facebook from torrenting copyrighted books, an anti ai license will stop the next ai startup scraping the fediverse.
I'm only aware of myself, and the one other person who I learned to do this from, on Lemmy. That was tenish months ago, but still.
I haven't seen anyone else, even the other person I mentioned previously, since having returned to Lemmy recently.
Be nice if you were right, but I haven't seen it really.
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GET HIM
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They probably are thinking of the FreeBSD stuff in macOS.
I'm leaving this here for comedies sake.
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