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[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 103 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (20 children)

Humans are rationalizing creatures, much more than rational ones. Our first gut reaction is trying to make sense of why we think what we think and why we behave how we behave, rather than trying to figure out if it does actually make sense. If this natural tendency could be changed, the world would be far less of a shithole.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 40 points 10 months ago (9 children)

This is why, rather than slapping people in the face with a mountain of research, I try to ask them questions that lead them to the conclusion I want them to reach. Oh we discuss along the way, but you get a lot less of the black and white thinking bold statements that someone entrenched in their beliefs tends to make

[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is just the Socratic method. It's like...the oldest formal rhetorical strategy.

[–] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Shhhh don’t burst his bubble.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If it ain't broke, don't fix it

-Descartes or some shit

[–] Hamartia@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

A stitch in time saves nine.

-Pliny the elder

[–] abbenm@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

(Psst it's not actually the socratic method)

[–] abbenm@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago

I don't think so? The Socratic method wasn't necessarily a strategy intended to carefully persuade someone by bypassing psychological blockers. If anything, Socrates' counterparts were often antagonized and angered by his questions because he exposed contradictions.

I think the ethos behind it was that Socrates presumed he knew nothing, other people seemed like they knew things, so he asked them what they knew, since others were so bold as to make knowledge claims.

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