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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 59 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Unless you own the building, you are not obligated to take care of this, the landlord is.

If they aren't doing that, report them to the city.

Good looking out for your neighbors, but don't let your landlord neglect shit.

Edit:

In the United States, the Americans with Disabilities act requires landlords to provide their tenants with a habitable place to live (because that's what they're paying for).

Additionally, if anyone slips and falls on a property, the owner is legally liable. Those are facts: It doesn't matter how you feel about them, they are what they are.

Downvoting the person informing you won't change anything.

Downvote away if it makes you feel better, but if you're a landlord, maintain your fucking property and take care of your people! Don't be a piece of shit slumlord.

[–] hannes3120@feddit.de 16 points 10 months ago

Can definitely be part of the rent contract though

[–] aeharding@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mowing and shoveling is standard lease stuff where I live.

(But not things like clearing gutters or worrying about ice dams)

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Really? Can I ask where that is, because that sounds crazy.

[–] aeharding@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I guess every area has it's own weirdness.. in my part of California, we have to provide our own refrigerators for our rentals! What!

[–] Liz@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's gotta be a local thing. I have a hard time seeing landlord snow removal making it into federal law (assuming you're American).

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

If a disabled person lives there, then (in the US) landlords are legally obligated to provide the disabled renter with a habitable living space under the Americans with Disabilities act, which is federal.

It's also worth pointing out, that anywhere in the US, if a person slips and falls on your property you (but mostly your insurance company probably) are responsible. So the landlord is open to additional liability there even if there are no local laws regarding snow removal simply because they are the owner of the property.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Great point in that first paragraph. In the second paragraph, it's my understanding that you can't sue if there was no expectation of safety. If the path isn't cleared in the slightest, then you're not liable. I also know that in some areas the owner can just write into the lease "you guys have to clear the snow" and it becomes the tenant's responsibility.

Anyway, fucking, clear your sidewalks people, be nice.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

You can sue for literally any reason you like in the US. Doesn't guarantee success of course and you might even end up being liable for court costs in addition to your own lawyer (if you hire one) but even if the lawsuit fails, being sued is a pain in the ass to begin with so why even open up the opportunity? Just shovel the damn snow or hire someone to take care of it especially if you are renting to disabled people.

Slumlords will downvote but fuck those assholes.