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[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

RHEL 9 defaulted to Wayland in 2022. RHEL 10 will not even include Xorg.

I agree that businesses lag, often by years. So the fact that RHEL is so far along in the Wayland transition kind of shows how out-of-date the anti-Wayland rhetoric is.

[–] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Exactly my point. The issues people consider ”solved” with wayland today will be solved in production in 3-5 years.

People are still running RHEL 7, and Wayland in RHEL 9 isn’t that polished. In 4-5 years when RHEL 10 lands, it might start to be usable. Oh right, then we need another few years for vendors to port garbage software that’s absolutely mission critical and barely works on Xorg, sure as fuck won’t work in xwayland. I’m betting several large RHEL-clients will either remain on RHEL8 far past EOL or just switch to alternative distros.

Basically, Xorg might be dead, but in some (paying commercial) contexts, Wayland won’t be a viable option within the next 5-10 years.

[–] Rogue@feddit.uk 1 points 6 days ago

What you're describing aren't issues with Wayland.

Your complaints are that you're using old versions and poorly designed software.

Those aren't Wayland issues they're poor management and lack of investment

[–] superkret@feddit.org 0 points 6 days ago

Well, we're currently in the process of porting apps away from Windows Server 2012 and CentOS 7.
What you're describing is just how the industry works, not specific to Wayland.