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Welcome to your GNU/Linux jounery.
Before you distro hop again, take your time exploring the os and terminal it will make installing the real arch linux easier.
EndeavourOS is the real Arch, with some additional repos and some sensible defaults.
What makes an Arch system an Arch system is the repos, the package manager and the fact that you installed it yourself.
Anyone giving you support will expect you to be able to answer a couple of questions about your system based on the fact you yourself configured it.
With EndeavourOS, even if you have the exact same repos, it still wouldn't be an Arch system.
And now get off my lawn!
Imagine gate keeping Linux, the irony...
There is no irony.
Gatekeeping Linux distros has been a time-honored tradition since 1993.
Fuck that. The Linux gate is wide open! Anyone that wants to use Linux, come on in!
And for your own sake: use anything but Ubuntu and their buggy Snaps.
Archinstall: Exists Someone: ArCh iS WhEN yOu iNStaLl It yOUrsELf.
In other words, this statement is bullshit.
Or Archinstall is bullshit ;)
I mostly agree with this. If you're asking for help on an Arch forum, I think it's fair to expect you know how your system is installed and configured. However, we know many use EndeavourOS (or Archinstall) to avoid having to configure their system. Forums provide free support; I think it's fair they get a say in what issues they don't want to deal with.
Try saying that on the Arch forums and see what they think about that statement.
I don't think many people on the Arch forums have that outlook on EndeavourOS. It is Arch with benefits
Arch users do not consider EOS as Arch but it absolutely is.
EndeavourOS uses the vanilla Arch kernels, the vanilla Arch repos, and the AUR. There are only a handful of packages in the EOS repos and the majority of them are theming or utils that are what you would use on Arch as well (like yay and paru). There are a few quality of life utils that are totally optional and most EOS users are probably not even aware of. Plus, I suppose, the EOS keyring and a couple of packages so that the distro identifies as EOS instead of Arch. Distro identification is the only thing that “overrrides” anything in the Arch repos.
I describe EOS as an opinionated Arch installer with sensible defaults. Once installed, it is just Arch.
It is trivial to revert EOS to vanilla Arch if you want to. I don’t think it even requires a reboot.
Sounds like something written at the likes of Manjaro which differ enough from plain Arch for it to be problematic.
To be honest, with EOS the point is moot - they have their own excellent forums and if you do insist on going to the Arch forums, just say you're using Arch.
God what a toxic post
Welcome to the Arch forums :D
Whatever. Why should anyone even go to their forum and ask their opinion on EndeavourOS (or other Arch-based distros) when their community is known for its toxicity?
Ever tried asking in Ubuntu forums for help for Mint, Pop or any other derived distribution?
It might be toxic but I understand if people that donate their free time to help others get tired of being asked for help for problems that were caused by the offspring distribution. I did not follow it nowadays but back in the days this was the same with Manjaro which caused issues every now and then by holding back some upgrades.
Nope. There are distro forums/communities for questions, and even general forums/communities where you can ask about any distro.
It's not about opinion, it's about the fact you can't go to the Arch forums in case you are running into issues while running Endeavour. Whether that's an issue or not is up to the user.
This is not a big problem, there are plenty of forums, and EndeavourOS itself has a great community.
I don't think they're saying it as a problem or trying to argue with you, just stating reality 😅
I know, I'm just saying.
No hoping needed anymore once you landed on a Arch base!
I agree, but I must say that with the Archinstall script it's a breeze nowadays.