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In the end, the KIA car company made its cars into subscription models, I really hate this because in the end the car we buy with our own money doesn't feel like it belongs to us. Should we finally buy an old school car ? so as not to be affected by this subscription models or is there a way to crack the software installed in it ?
They will just keep adding stuff to this and removing it feom the "free" tear
Soon, auto manufacturers will learn what happens when buying isn't owning.
People will definitely download a car, or the crack for all its features.
I think sooner or later open source cars will be a thing. The problem (well, it's a good thing) is that cars need to pass inspection to be road ready. But not bike-like vehicles.
This might shock you but cars where open source for years. Did you think those super detailed shop manuals anyone could buy where not intended to be used to work on the car? How about the massive aftermarket and any and all hot rods? This idea that you can't fuck with you own stuff because its got a computer in it for "safety" is relatively new. Does no one else remember hooking a laptop up to the old ECUs and modifying how the engine works?
You can absolutely fuck with your car and install after market parts. But your car still needs to pass a minimum level of road safety. That's for the common good. I mean things like having correct lights, crumple zones, brakes, mirrors etc. Now if you want to make a car that runs on used kit hen scraps I totally think you should. We should own. Own devices including their computer system. But I don't just the average Joe with the parts that keep me safe from them.
Also, this might not shock you, but cars also used to suck in many ways. Not everything from the past is good.
The issue is normalizing the concept that you do not get to control what you paid for. Responsibility has not changed, you can drive your car into a crowded park and would still be guilty of it regardless of how stock it is. If you mod your stuff to be dangerous that would be a crime. In this case would you say that remote starting your car from your phone somehow is a public safety issue? At least if you jailbroke it to work on your own network?
Well if it's an inspection issue, you'll be able to have an inspection mode if you're a clever programmer.
Good luck trying to do that
Auto manufacturers are notorious for having terrible security. It'll be a cakewalk for innovators.
Sure, start sharing what car has been hacked. Any? No? But autos have had computers for years, why havent they been hacked?
Are you just posting incorrect information to get someone to list all of the current vulnerabilities?Here you go.
Jeep Cherokee: https://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/
Tesla Models: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-16203/Tesla.html?page=1&order=1&trc=13&sha=73e27d3898b2b240263e0f443513b5e8f9073841
Volkswagen Group Cars: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-17738/Volkswagen.html?page=1&order=1&trc=2&sha=0a9d8cfebb47ff684cd74be5616ee6ca4ec210f6
BMW Cars: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-18059/BMW.html?page=1&order=1&trc=7&sha=acf406b1442448d1c40b22f3f73a5647c3fafed7
SiriusXM (Connected Vehicle Service) (9 different brands): https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/3/23491259/sirius-xm-hack-remotely-unlock-start-cars
Thanks for the good laugh.
Lol, someone "hacked" a car so they can turn it off is not the same as building a whole OS for a car. Or are you exited about connecting to SirusXM ??
Look up ECU tuning. People have been rewriting the assembly on ECU modules since they existed.
A single search online should find you multiple examples of PCM modifications as well.
Anyway since it's been proven that facts don't dissuade people that are dedicated to their position I'm going to stop here.
Have a good night. Help is on the way.
https://www.securityweek.com/16-car-makers-and-their-vehicles-hacked-telematics-apis-infrastructure/
Here is a thing I found after a simple google search. Its not even a good article but hey I spent more time typing this then finding it....
Well it is a computer that people own (even if it is in a car), and at least one person will want to mess with that computer.
Remind me again what assumptions you can make about software integrity if the hardware it runs on is in full possession of a known attacker?
You dont "own" it if you cant change the code.
The car mfgrs don't have a chance. I'm looking forward to rooted BMWs with free heated seats.