this post was submitted on 21 Jan 2024
199 points (97.2% liked)

Games

16806 readers
997 users here now

Video game news oriented community. No NanoUFO is not a bot :)

Posts.

  1. News oriented content (general reviews, previews or retrospectives allowed).
  2. Broad discussion posts (preferably not only about a specific game).
  3. No humor/memes etc..
  4. No affiliate links
  5. No advertising.
  6. No clickbait, editorialized, sensational titles. State the game in question in the title. No all caps.
  7. No self promotion.
  8. No duplicate posts, newer post will be deleted unless there is more discussion in one of the posts.
  9. No politics.

Comments.

  1. No personal attacks.
  2. Obey instance rules.
  3. No low effort comments(one or two words, emoji etc..)
  4. Please use spoiler tags for spoilers.

My goal is just to have a community where people can go and see what new game news is out for the day and comment on it.

Other communities:

Beehaw.org gaming

Lemmy.ml gaming

lemmy.ca pcgaming

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works
199
Valve Made $1 Billion From CS Cases Last Year, Data Claims (insider-gaming.com)
submitted 10 months ago by nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works to c/games@sh.itjust.works
64 comments fedilink hide all child comments
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You mean the one and only corporation that truly cares about its users? /s

How anyone doesn't think they're as shitty as any other company of similar size is beyond me.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I don't really like lootboxes as a concept, but cosmetic lootboxes that they actually let you trade between accounts is certainly one of the better monetization schemes out there.

I'm sure there's a better reason to criticize them than teens spending $300 to get a gun with a "leaf pattern" but the reality is they're the best seller in the market and that's why people like them.

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

one of the better monetization schemes out there.

Let's not let minor arguments about which is the lesser evil disguise the fact that they are all still evil.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago

as shitty as any other company

In this case, the lesser evil is worth pointing out, because they aren't as shitty as any other company, they're less so

[–] verysoft@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, the reason why they make so much is because the skins have actual value, they also get 15% on any sale made through their community market. I fucking hate lootboxes, but I also hate skins costing as much as a game. MTX (micro or macro) are always going to be shit, until regulations catch up to all the predatory bullshit we are going to be stuck with one system or another and I'd rather take CS's.
I mean I made a profit, if I sold up right now.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Oh fuck off, it's digital art, they could let people buy the exact skin they want for 50 cents and be done with it, you're defending them praying on people with a gambling problem.

[–] verysoft@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not defending anyone, I'd rather you pay for your game and that is it, how it used to be before the 2010s rolled around. I despise micro/macrotransactions, battle passes, the cosmetic trend, FOMO content, I could rant about it all day and how fucked it is.

I was just picking my best of the worst. I see you don't understand how CS skins work, so I'll try to explain.

  • Anyone can design a skin for a weapon and put this on the Steam Workshop.
  • People then vote on their favourite skins, eventually Valve make a new case and look through skins to add them to the case,
  • Everytime a key for that case is bought the creators get a cut.
  • Everytime a creators skin is bought/sold between players, they get a cut.
  • I can open the case with a key and hope I get a skin I want. Gambling.
  • I can buy the exact skin I want directly off the Steam Market... and be done with it
  • I can trade other players for an exact skin I want.
  • I can sell that skin again on the Steam Market (Valve gets 15% cut, of which some goes to skin creator as prev. mentioned).
  • I can trade that skin to friends/other players, for free or for something they own.

So I get a lot more freedom with my new cosmetic item vs another game:

  • Skin made in-house.
  • Buy skin from store.
  • Maybe I can refund if they have the option, if they do it's usually limited.
    Or
  • Buy loot box
  • I now have skin I cannot trade, sell or do anything with but use.

So yeah, I think Valve have the best of the worst predatory cosmetic systems out there. That's not defending the practice, I'd MUCH rather the whole cosmetic trend fucked off along with the microtransactions and online systems in singleplayer games and the list could go on...

(Edit: Lmao at you editing and putting 'for 50 cent' in there)

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

That's exactly what you're doing and your doing it even more in this message!

"I think they have the best of the what worst

Fuck no, there's no "best" in this case, pushing people to gamble is pushing people to gamble and that's it. I used to work in the gambling industry and I've seen the damage it can do, it's fucking disgusting to defend a private business doing it.

[–] verysoft@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I agree with you, I hate gambling. It has ruined many lives.

But that doesn't mean I cannot discuss the shit as it exists.

That shouldn't be too hard to understand. I won't engage with this further. Have a good one.