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[–] Aganim@lemmy.world 30 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Meanwhile a Bethesda game like Fallout 3 had its fair share of flaws, but gave you plenty of opportunity to decide if you wanted to be the good guy or not. Blow up a town? Kill off all residents of Tenpenny Tower, or whack all the ghouls that want to take up residence? Why not all of them? You decide!

It also wasn't afraid of locking players out of quests if they behaved like an asshole. I liked that, why would somebody try to work with you after you just gave them the proverbial finger?

Far better than 'oh golly, you just told me that I'm not a nice person. Well, that's not very neighbourly of you, but I'll pay you my life-long savings if you hop over to the next hub and return my package that I conveniently know is collecting dust over there, but can't be bothered to fetch myself'.

[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

In Fallout 3 you can kill the entire BoS faction (minus the essential NPCs, that go unconscious), wait a day, and they'll be your best pal again.

In Starfield there is the exact same morality system, with lawmen who will attack you if you are evil and some random faction that will attack you because "we hate goody two shoes", but you are shoehorned into being Jesus at the end of the game with the same issue of the 'good' faction having to mandatorily become non hostile to make the final quest work.

The way people feel about Starfield is the way I feel about every Bethesda game since Morrowind.

[–] Aganim@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah, FO3 wasn't perfect, but at least it had its darker edges. Feel like a slaver? Sure, no problem, you can enslave random wastelanders and sell them for profit. Screw over BoS? Broken Steel let you do that, RIP Citadel. The Pitt gave an antagonist with a motive which turned out to be a bit more nuanced than it initially seemed. You could roleplay a fat-shaming, racist PoS if you wanted to, instead of presenting only safe options.