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[–] Damage@feddit.it 52 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Weird year to die of plague

[–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 day ago

Imagine dying of plague before it was cool.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You can die of the plague today. It wasn’t constrained by dates, big flare ups in society happened and they were the ones that went down in history books, but people died of the disease outside those years too.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

They're referring to the bubonic plague (aka the Black Death) which didn't arrive in Europe until the 14th century. And yes, we would habe heard of it before then because it was highly contagious.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

Please see the post I offered in response that shows research indicating Yersina Pestis was killing humans in Europe and Asia well before the mass plagues.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I didn't say that's not possible, I said that's weird, just like dying of plague today would be.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why would it be weird?

It would only be weird today in a modern western country because of the rarity and available medical treatment being unsuccessful. It was not any different historically from other diseases centuries ago that lacked treatment or understanding. There was nothing weird about it.

[–] fristislurper@feddit.nl 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because the plague specifically did not reach Europe before 1347 as far as we know. Now of course there could be plague in Europe before this, and we modern people don't know about it because of poor recordkeeping or something. But it would be a bit surprising. Therefore: weird.

[–] fatalicus@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Plague of Justinian was a pandemic of bubonic plague in Europe (among others) in the 6th century.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4644222/

I’ll offer that humans were dying of Yersina Pestis in Europe before the well-known outbreaks of The Plague.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Maybe dysentery would have been better.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 18 points 1 day ago

Found the historian