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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

The precedent that will set and the implications... No... We should not do this.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 59 minutes ago

The precedent that will set and the implications

and what precedent is there for dealing with the executive of your country's entire space launch infrastructure when they become dependent on horse drugs?

No really, what's the precedent here, I want to know. Because if we set a precedent by ignoring it until the problem is impossible to ignore, that's gonna be a far more expensive fix.

So yeah, yeah we should consider this very strongly.

[–] pneumatron@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Health insurance, ISP, Oil Cos, and utilities should also be nationalized. The US is a weird place where everything is a business. A shithole capitalist hellscape

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -1 points 2 hours ago

Those are different to taking over private companies. The government should, imo, compete against private enterprise in those areas, in turn bringing prices down and making it better for the taxpayers.

NASA is government owned. Look at the state of it. Do you think the government taking over SpaceX would really be a good thing?

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world -5 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Tankies live in alternate reality where they think that nationalization is extremely common and is a magical solution to all of societies problems... even though this view is entirely delusional.

For example, only 3 countries have nationalized the entire ISP industry, and those are Cuba, Turkmenistan, and North Korea. All three of which are horrid tyrannical dictatorships with horrible internet. We should NOT be like them. Even when it comes to health insurance, except for 3 countries I just mentioned, every single country allows private health insurance, even if their system is public. Clearly nationalization is not what you think it is.

[–] pneumatron@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Tankie your ass. You don't have to have a shitty dictatorship to have nationalized services. Clearly you don't know as much as you think you do.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Most countries have public options for services and private alternatives as either competitors, backups, or complimentary pieces. It's very rare for countries to completely nationalize sectors, and it's especially rare for them to national that many sectors.

[–] pneumatron@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Yep that's my point. Not everything needs be a business.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 57 minutes ago

Tankies

boy howdy you've got the entire strawman army mustered in this thread.

[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Nationalization is the opposite of privatization, it's how the US's bureaucratic state was really built, we should absolutely do this and right now is the time

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

No, this is just pure ignorance. The US never nationalized any sector. The US has only used nationalization as a means to stabilize certain sectors from collapse temporarily, and even this happens very rarely.

Nationalization stable, growing industries would have devastating impacts on the economy. These companies are running just fine, and they're providing their services reliably and at competitive prices, what would be the justification to nationalize them? If the government feels like it needs more control on these companies they can pass regulations, and if they want total control then they should launch their own public alternatives.

[–] pneumatron@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Gotcha. So fascism it is then. How's that working out for y'all? Lmao

Your comment doesn't make sense. You say the US never nationalized and in the next sentence you say that they have. Remember after the 2008 collapse when the automotive industry was nationalized for a while and the government made a profit? Maybe you need to check your own ignorance.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world -2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Gotcha. So fascism it is then. How’s that working out for y’all? Lmao

This is going to be shocking for you, but there's more to politics than fascism and marxism

Your comment doesn’t make sense. You say the US never nationalized and in the next sentence you say that they have.

My point was that the US never nationalized any sector permanently for the sake of making it public. It also temporarily nationalized portions of some sectors to stabilize them before making them private again.

[–] pneumatron@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Omg you really think you're smarter than everyone. Of course there's in-between. Lmao glad you were able to clear it up for yourself.