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[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 4 points 10 months ago (13 children)

Anyone who says, “think of the corporations” before they think of the people being PERMANENTLY compromised is a lost soul indeed. You are blaming the inadequacy of standards rather than the demagogues working for the corporations that enabled these lax standards. Of course there are going to be 0 day exploits that no one could protect for but that is a red herring. That’s something that could easily come out and be considered when that company is brought in front of a civil court to decide the fines, obviously!

I think we’re too dissimilar for this conversation to bear any fruit. Thanks for the well constructed devil’s advocate stance but you certainly haven’t convinced me.

[–] eltimablo@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago (12 children)

When you say "corporations," it seems like you're exclusively counting companies like Google, Meta, etc, whereas I'm also including the mom and pop, 15-person operations that would be impacted by the same regulations you suggest. Those underdogs are the ones I want to protect, since they're the only chance the world has at dethroning the incumbents and ensuring that the big guys don't outlive their usefulness.

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 1 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I just realized you’re the Tesla guy from yesterday. I’m glad we could have a more mature discussion on this topic and I’m glad I didn’t block you. 🤣

[–] eltimablo@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

NGL, my first comment was partially meant to see if you actually had blocked me lol

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

😃 Wholesome AF. Sorry about yesterday. That was a SUPER immature discussion after a while.

I wouldn’t consider you my best friend or anything but I’m glad I didn’t put in blinders to someone critical of my ideas. Cheers, fellow fediverse user. After all, you don’t seem like a dummy; just a person with different perspective than me.

[–] eltimablo@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hey man, it happens. I could tell that you had some valid arguments in there, I was just trying to get you to express them. I definitely didn't help by joining in the immaturity either.

Side note, I'm legit starting to hate my Tesla anyway, but I wasn't about to admit that yesterday lol. There are absolutely a lot of valid criticisms of them, I just think the majority are overblown, especially as they relate to FSD. I'm in the beta and it's basically the only reason I still have the damn thing.

Anyway, I'm sorry too. I probably should have just walked away when things got heated, but there was a part of me that was secretly hoping to see how long we'd keep going back and forth calling each other assholes because I thought it would be funny.

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 1 points 10 months ago

This interaction definitely improved my day even more than our interaction yesterday perhaps soured my day. Thanks for that!

This fediverse thing is really nice sometimes. I look forward to some really good discussions. I promise to try to keep my cool. If I call you a name, you should know that it is with a smirk and only meant as a soft, subtle jab. :)

[–] Numberone@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago

Just want to say that I appreciate how you two ended up haha. It was a wide eyed "Woah" from me at the beginning there (both), but I do love that you guys talked it out and ended up all civil and complimentary. There's hope for us all to understand each other is my takeaway. Thanks to both of you for showing us the way.

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