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AI Utopia, AI Apocalypse, and AI Reality: If we can’t build an equitable, sustainable society on our own, it’s pointless to hope that a machine that can’t think straight will do it for us. (www.commondreams.org)
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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

The problem is that we absolutely can build a sustainable society on our own. We've had the blueprints forever, the Romans worked this out centuries ago, the problem is that there's always some power seeking prick who messes it up. So we gave up trying to build a fair society and just went with feudalism and then capitalism instead.

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The Romans had a slave economy. I don't really think that counts as sustainable or even having worked it out.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 2 weeks ago

So do we. We just leave them in another country so we don't have to think about them.

[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

sustainable Romans

Lol.

[–] Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

they had reusable poop sponges what more do you want??

[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

More sponges to begin with.

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The worst person you know is still just a meatbag, same as anyone else. Jeff Amazon himself has no power but what others, operating within one weird system, grant him.

Problem is we let the pricks run things, or we become the pricks ourselves.

Trick is figuring out how to stop both those things from happening. Must be tricky, given how it keeps happening. But we're a clever species. We landed on the moon, took pictures of the backside of our star, spilt the atom, etc. We can figure out good economics and governance.

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

None of those things directly threatened the power of an oligarch.

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

They are examples of complex and difficult tasks that humans are capable of when working together, implying through comparison reordering society is also achievable.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

The Romans were one of the most extractive and wasteful empires in history. Wtf are you on about????

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Heading back towards feudalism.