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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

More or less agree with your take, but:

I am reasonably confident this would not have happened in a Dem regime.

I'm fairly confident in my memory that Israel attacked Syria under Biden, taking advantage of the instability to expand it's illegal settlements in the Golan Heights. Am I wrong?

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

Eyup. Both parties are liberal, both parties have the same foreign policy. They differ primarily in name only.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I believe you are correct, but I was perhaps not clear enough there.

What I meant was, had Kamala won, I doubt she would have sent B2s to bomb Natanz, Fordow and Ishfahar.

She maybe, might have agreed to some kind of support role in a much, much more limited version of that kind of a strike, but it likely would have been at least given the Blinken treatment of a veneer of plausible deniability.

Which is fucking awful, but is at least more competent in terms of staying on messsge and presenting an official 'stance'... in neoliberal ghoul logic, which does unfortunately convince many people.

EDIT: Or, maybe, now being President, she could have actually broken from the seemingly very Biden driven deference to Israel, and actually drawn a line at at least... maybe no Israel, you shouldn't bomb Iran that provocatively, we will actually stop giving you some kind of weapon if you do that... maybe even abstain from some UN vote on whether or not you're doing a genocide, instead of voting no.

Hypotheticals, but....seemingly at least possible, to me.