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[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 75 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

I've known several men that were proud that they didn't read books. (Not that they read manga or anything, either.)

One of them, in particuular, was a grown up version of a stereotypical highschool bully. Willfully ignorant doesn't begin to describe him. I ever meet him in a dark alley, I'd fucking gut him.

Anyhow, this behaviour (pride in ignorance) among women is rare enough that I've never seen it. When I was doing online dating, I had great success asking what they're reading and using decent grammar and vocabulary.

Anti-intellectualism and willfull ignorance have a lot to do with the situation here in the US. I think it's mostly a male problem as well.

[–] virku@lemmy.world 27 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Have you ever done any sort of IT support? I was internal IT in my first job and we had those people. It was mostly women 50+ years old who were proud that they know nothing about computers and would actively avoid listening when I tried to tell them how to do something trivial. Even when it was part of their jobs to do it. Then they would ask for help with the same stupid shit a few weeks later.

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 13 points 19 hours ago

Fucking hell, so much this. They're so goddamn proud of their ignorance. This is why I enforce a very strict "we're mechanics, not chauffeurs" policy in my team. We've got no duty - either literal or moral - to make up for incompetence.

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

Not IT support directly but I've had that same experience with plenty of boomer men in machine shops. They're fucking proud that they suck at computer yet CNC has been around since the '80s in a big way.

Ran a shop for a while and still have the terminating document from when I fired one of those fuckers.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 5 points 18 hours ago

If I was as bad at reading and responding to emails as the folks I support...

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 21 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Highschool bullies are just a grown up version of middle school bullies. That shit was supposed to stop there.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

And many of them never grow out of it and become President.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 4 points 18 hours ago

I met a lot of women like this also. It just manifests differently. Rather than books it will be the newest celebrity drama/reality show.