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Some notes based on frequent comments:

  • Not my petition, I'm just sharing it.
  • I don't live in the USA.
  • You can sign a petition and call them to complain. The numbers are downthread.
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[–] lerky@lemmy.blahaj.zone 147 points 1 day ago (3 children)

For fuck sake. Online petitions are worthless. Directly call and email them. Force human staff to deal with your complaint multiple times a day until they revert the policy. Bog their entire support system down through a sustained effort. That is how you will get their attention.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 74 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I find it hilarious that the reason these payment companies requested sites pull their NSFW content was due to direct action by a puritanical activist group but people upset by it not only don't care enough to participate in direct action themselves but won't even put their real name on a petition. Recently signed by: Crazy crazysmile. Thanks for the support Mr. Crazysmile!

Say what you want about right wing nut jobs, but they at least care enough about their ideas that they go out and make a difference.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The reason they're effective at it is the exact reason we aren't. We just want to be left the fuck alone and want to leave others alone. We don't bombard people with our shitty ideas because we're good people.

I'm all for us doing it as a reaction but do not celebrate these degenerates trying to govern your life. Fuck that and fuck them.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 day ago

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. People fought wars to end monarchy, slavery, fascism. Wanting to be left alone isn't the mark of a good person. Good deeds are what make a good person. It is your actions, not your beliefs, that make you a good person.

You don't need to bombard people with your ideas. You need to stand up for them.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Your discomfort in pushing your ideals is why you'll lose them

[–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

They also have massive financial backing

[–] other_cat@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I do kind of wonder how you go about pushing against a company that has virtually no customer support. Just an AI chatbot or something. No numbers, no emails. It's not common, but I've seen it, and I expect we'll see more of it increasingly. I suppose at that point you could try to locate their address and mail them a letter?

EDIT: Btw both mastercard and visa DO have simple ways of contacting them. You can email mastercard and Visa has chat, email, and phone call. It was pretty easy to snap off an email to both calling them out. About as hard as signing the petition so I recommend doing that instead.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 2 points 30 minutes ago

Something I'd like in a perfect world is legislation to fight back against general "contact unavailability" of large companies.

I generally recognize that there are lots of people that call for simple stuff that they could've checked online. That said, there has to be a legislative median that ensures people with serious concerns can follow some path to contact some sentient person. Heck, even just to serve them lawsuit papers.

[–] BoiLudens@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I shall be doin that too!

[–] CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

email is easily instantly and trivially ignored

[–] CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Fuck, uuuuuuh phone calls?