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  • Not my petition, I'm just sharing it.
  • I don't live in the USA.
  • You can sign a petition and call them to complain. The numbers are downthread.
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[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 83 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] lena@gregtech.eu 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The irony. Also, who/what does the money go to?

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Change.org is a private, for-profit, venture-backed company. Your money goes to their executives.

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah, amazing. Petitions on change.org also don't have any legal basis, so corpos can just ignore them. ECIs have a lot more power.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I seriously suspect they're a psyops to help dissipate people's righteous anger - people are pissed of a something, sign a meaningless petition on something like change.org, get their "I've done something" psychological kick and, having satisfied their need to do something, don't actually go ahead and do anything effective.

Defusing the anger against injustices of the very people who tend to be more aware of what's going on and more concerned about it, before it turns into action or even causes civil society movements to rise from the bottom up, is a pretty useful mechanism for established powers in those countries which peddle the illusion of freedom to their citizenry.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago
[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

One-tap dial phone numbers:

Master card


Visa


PayPal


Stripe (unconfirmed)


Script:

I’m calling to urge [company name] to immediately end the policy that unfairly targets the adult content industry. I’m also asking that [company name] sit down with stakeholders- specifically sex workers and adult content creators- to develop solutions that ensure equitable access to financial services, create stability, and reduce harm for sex workers.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Instead of "sex workers" wouldnt "adult content creators" be more palatable?

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe so! Mentioning that human rights are at stake can be more impactful, but also risks turning off potential supporters, so idk

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

I feel like "adult content creators" covers all genres. Games or porn.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 54 points 1 month ago

Name one change.org petition that accomplished anything except giving change.org a valuable email list to spam and sell.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't waste your time with change.org. Call your CC company directly and complain. Not email. Call.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, you need to do all three.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Change.org and email can be ignored automatically. Calling them costs them call center money.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Except the change.org gets media attention. Proven by the fact that we're talking in this thread right now. Emails must be at least a little effective considering that's one of the methods that Collective Shout group used to put pressure on these companies in the first place. Along with public displays of course which goes back to the petition point. So again, I say again you should do all three.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you really want to sign the petition, fine. Just call them before doing that.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Well yes, that's what I'm advocating, doing all of them. Though frankly I'd say write your email and sign the petition while you're on hold, probably more efficient that way.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 month ago

Petition?

No, no, they should be legally enforced to do so.

[–] Wimopy@feddit.uk 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I feel like this should be an official EU petition like Stop Killing Games as well. Have lawmakers actually tell payment processors that they have no right to deny legal transactions (not just fictional content, but any legal transaction).

[–] Mirror Giraffe@piefed.social 14 points 1 month ago

I'm pretty sure they don't deny transactions. They just threaten to pull out. If they clearly state that they don't have customers with explicit content I think that's fine, but I assume they went full bully instead.

These companies tend to have rules about what types of transactions they want to be associated with and only have deals with companies that adher to that. When I was working in Klarna they were very clear that they did not associate with porn, sex, weapons etc. Of course they also own the bank Sofort that handles shady customers.

The problem here is that these providers are so big that it'd be a major blow for Steam to lose them and hence they can be bullied into submission.

[–] yopp@infosec.pub 20 points 1 month ago

I think we need to level the playing field with these religious zealots. We need to counter with bold statement in a language they understand, using the same tools they use, like this crude draft:

I am a member of the New Sexually Free Worship Church (NSFW Church for short), and I am deeply disappointed by recent actions recklessly taken by payment processors to ban religious content

I believe these actions violate my freedom of religion and I urge world governments to take immediate steps to stop this outrageous attack on religious liberty

[–] iamtherealwalrus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

I wonder if VISA and Mastercard could be regulated in the EU as gatekeepers in the DMA

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I wonder if the real reason credit card companies have been responsive to these groups is the potential for lawsuits that drag payment processors into them, which is a result of various shitty laws that have been passed to generally empower these sorts of regressive trolls to do so. If so petitions from the other side might not be as effective, because they can be sued for providing services to the wrong people but not so much for cutting off service, and there's not much actual risk to them even if a lot of people are mad about the latter.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not enough, We need to actively seek out & destroy the fascists (CS in this case). Document those individuals & prevent them from getting a job, EVER. They use children as human shields, while violating them. (They support Cuties & Germaine Greer)