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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 120 points 2 days ago (13 children)

I'm a very vocal critic of LLMs, I think they're so overhyped and overused it's hard to believe.

But I'm also getting really tired of people purposely putting extreme effort into tricking the LLM into saying something harmful if someone were to follow it blindly, just so they can make a clickbait headline out of it.

And what the hell is up with the major "ChatGPT is Satanist [if you instruct it to be]" angle? Are we really doing the Satanist moral panic again?

ffs, criticise OpenAI for being closed af, being wasteful, being strong political lobbyists, for stealing work, etc. You don't need to push disingenuous stuff like this.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 44 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

purposely putting extreme effort into tricking the LLM into saying something harmful

I dont think you understand how many mentally unstable people out there are using LLMs as therapists.
There are fuckloads of cases now of people that were genuinely misled by LLMs into doing horrible things.

I agree with your sentiment, but the thing is that the companies are selling their shit as gold and not as shit. If they were honest about their stuff being shit, then people wouldnt be able to capitalize off of malicious prompt engineering. If you claim "we made it super safe and stuff" then you are inviting people to test that.

I would generally not make companies responsible for how users misuse their products, but OpenAI is basically doing everything to get people to misuse it. They are overselling it so hard i think its reasonable to sue them for it.

[–] h3rmit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You an make a car super safe, and if someone cuts the brakes cable it will not slow.

[–] Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

More like SAYING you’ve made a car super safe while actually it’s only safe if you never drive it above 5KM/h and never down hills, up hills, in the rain, etc

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