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every comment I read presents the opposite opinion and I just keep upvoting each one

I know nothing and stand by nothing

life is pretty easy, I'm gonna go back to that other meme with the sandwich pictures now bye

[–] roserose56@lemmy.ca 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

"On Tuesday afternoon, I used chatgpt for no reason!" here is your new title.
If you expected another answer from chatgpt, then you are delusional.

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

In my client's defense, they wanted to contribute to global warming, a patriotic act in these weird times!

[–] qweertz@programming.dev 5 points 14 hours ago

We should ban knifes BC they enable people to cut their wrist in the first place!!!

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago (2 children)
[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 5 hours ago

One of the hardest lines of all time, smack dab at the end of one of the worst(in the best way) movies.

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Amazing. Well done.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago
[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 113 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I'm a very vocal critic of LLMs, I think they're so overhyped and overused it's hard to believe.

But I'm also getting really tired of people purposely putting extreme effort into tricking the LLM into saying something harmful if someone were to follow it blindly, just so they can make a clickbait headline out of it.

And what the hell is up with the major "ChatGPT is Satanist [if you instruct it to be]" angle? Are we really doing the Satanist moral panic again?

ffs, criticise OpenAI for being closed af, being wasteful, being strong political lobbyists, for stealing work, etc. You don't need to push disingenuous stuff like this.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

purposely putting extreme effort into tricking the LLM into saying something harmful

I dont think you understand how many mentally unstable people out there are using LLMs as therapists.
There are fuckloads of cases now of people that were genuinely misled by LLMs into doing horrible things.

I agree with your sentiment, but the thing is that the companies are selling their shit as gold and not as shit. If they were honest about their stuff being shit, then people wouldnt be able to capitalize off of malicious prompt engineering. If you claim "we made it super safe and stuff" then you are inviting people to test that.

I would generally not make companies responsible for how users misuse their products, but OpenAI is basically doing everything to get people to misuse it. They are overselling it so hard i think its reasonable to sue them for it.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I dont think you understand how many mentally unstable people out there are using LLMs as therapists.

I do understand. I know there are people out there thinking that LLMs are literally Jesus returning. But in that case, write about that.

There are a lot more reasonable critiques of LLMs, and the companies to be had.

[–] h3rmit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You an make a car super safe, and if someone cuts the brakes cable it will not slow.

[–] Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago

More like SAYING you’ve made a car super safe while actually it’s only safe if you never drive it above 5KM/h and never down hills, up hills, in the rain, etc

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Consider how popular the idea of AI God currently is: https://youtu.be/zKCynxiV_8I

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

And how about they write the article about that instead of this bullshit article? I don't get why people are trying to get them off the hook for this clickbait garbage instead of writing proper articles

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 0 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I've been saying this for a bit. The issue isn't chatgpt. It's journalist. All these articles are so copy paste of any yellow journalistic bullshit. But ratchet up because a lot of journalists feel threatened by AI.

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[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago

Any ten year old can literally get AI to say anything.

Gee… a paint can will put a swatika on the brick wall when I hold the trigger down and move my arm a certain way.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 48 points 1 day ago (12 children)

But I'm also getting really tired of people purposely putting extreme effort into tricking the LLM into saying something harmful if someone were to follow it blindly, just so they can make a clickbait headline out of it.

That's called testing, and the companies behind these LLMs should, before launch, put a very important amount of their resources into testing.

"Product testing is a crucial process in product development where a product's functionality, performance, safety, and user experience are evaluated to identify potential issues and ensure it meets quality standards before release" (Gemini)

We are literally using alpha/beta software to deal with life altering issues, and these companies are, for some reason, being able to test their products on the public, without consequences.

[–] tarknassus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Can you think of any other industry where the mass adoption of a product is untested? Like image airlines adding a new autopilot system that allows a single crew flight - but it’s been untested. Or an electrical appliance that is sold without being tested for shock hazards?

Similar with AI - they already tell us they don’t know exactly how it all works (the black box) - yet are content to unleash it on the masses and see what happens. The social and personal effects this will have are being studied already and it’s not looking great.

It’s not even labelled as a beta test either.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago

That they don't know how it works is a lie. The mysticism and anthropomorphization is purposeful marketing. Pretending they don't know how it works also lets them pretend that the fact they constantly lie is something that can be fixed rather than a fundamental aspect of the technology

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

This has sadly been the norm in the tech industry for at least a decade now. The whole eco-system had become so accustomed to quick injections of investment cash, that products/businesses no longer grow organically but instead hit the scene in one huge developing and marketing blitz.

Consider companies like Uber or AirBnB. Their goal was never to make a safe, stable, or even legal product. Their goal was always to be first. Command the largest user base possible in the shortest time possible, then worry about all the details later. Both of those products have had disastrous effects on existing businesses and communities while operating in anti-competetive ways and flaunting existing laws, but so what? They're popular! Tens of millions of people already use them, and by the time government regulation catches up with that they're doing it's already too late. What politician would be brave enough to try and ban a company like Uber? What regulator still has enough power to reign in a company the size of AirBnB?

OpenAI is playing the same game. They don't care if their product is safe — hell, they don't even really care if it's useful, or profitable. They just want to be ubiquitous, because once they achieve that, the rest doesn't matter.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 6 points 1 day ago

"Our AI is the most powerful, useful, knowledgeable and trustworthy system out there, it can be the cornerstone of modern society... unless you use it wrong. In which case it is corrupted trash."

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

I cannot wait for the evangelicals to start freaking out about “satanic” AI!

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 21 hours ago

So... close the browser window? It's not the boss of you

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Everyone is like "oh look they made ChatGPT say something stupid, what a stupid article and writer". Not, "ChatGPT will say stupid stuff as fact, what a stupid and underdeveloped tool".

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 19 points 1 day ago

They literally want us to trust their models to be the foundation of modern society...

[–] three_trains_in_a_trenchcoat@piefed.social 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, tools are tools. Their value, good or bad, is in how they're used. If you do something like hit your own hand with a hammer, it's really not the hammer's fault. LLMs are 95% gizmos, with a few actually useful cases accounting for the other 5%, at least while they're still priced way under cost anyway.

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 5 points 22 hours ago

If we are using the hammer analogy, let's assume the user isn't an expert with hammers already and is just trying to hammer in a nail to secure something to a wall. They start hammering and the nail bends and looks terrible and isn't secure at all, but the hammer pipes up "don't worry that's, exactly what it should look like. Just hammer it again even harder to make sure".

[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

A blood offering to Molech? Sounds like a good time to me! <3

edit: as I expected, this is a hit with the tumblr mutuals

(Stop trying to get me to use ChatGPT!!! Smh)

Molech, a Canaanite god associated with child sacrifice

Ohh, so that’s why specifically that god is mentioned in FAITH: The Unholy Trinity.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

and Devil Worship

also said “Hail Satan.”

Look, let's leave Satan out of this. He's got enough troubles already with his new relationship and all.


Seriously though we don't need to be enabling Satanic Panic bullshit with articles like these sensationalizing that aspect of these conversations. The push towards self-mutilation and suicide is the bigger issue here.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

I can devil worship and hail satan all I want. Its made up belief, like religion in the first place.

Suicide is not.

[–] zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can't read the whole article because it's paywalled, but the first two paragraphs confirm what everyone already knew: The author purposely led ChatGPT into weird occult topics, then acted scandalized when ChatGPT got weird and occult.

[–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 8 points 1 day ago

Train a model on nothing but drama,

(Just about all written text is drama, otherwise it wouldn't be written down, whether it's internet comments or stories)

Your output will always be drama.

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

OpenAI and the California State University system bring AI to 500,000 students and faculty: https://openai.com/index/openai-and-the-csu-system/

What can go wrong?

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago

I hope Moloch doesn't give any input into scoring.

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[–] romantired@shibanu.app 1 points 22 hours ago

First, they forced him to talk about Satan; second, what's so bad about that?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

And people were wondering if poisoning AI input actually worked.

[–] Aidinthel@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago

It's so great that Republicans made regulating AI illegal. /s

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