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[–] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 146 points 2 days ago (39 children)

Nice article on Meshtastic. The problem is that, like anything, the actual distance is a lot more dependent on line of sight and the actual mesh existing. Which means we’d need a LOT more people to adopt these and put up repeaters for them to be useful. Which is doable, but not cheap.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 57 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Have a look at meshmap.net. That shows people who have voluntarily put themselves on a map.

Although it can be a serious underestimation, for example in my area, I'm the only one who lists myself on the map, but there are about 10 other nodes that don't

Edit: Also, the number of nodes on MeshMap has pretty much doubled in six months since I started playing with it.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Hmm, more than I expected actually. None in my town but one in a nearby town and the nearest city.

Is there a limit to how far can you communicate through multiple nodes? Also is there anything special for setting up a repeater compared to just communicating on the network?

Though i don't know anyone else that would be likely to use something like this sadly.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 points 20 hours ago

They've set the maximum at seven hops, but depending on weather conditions, that can easily be several hundred miles.

Nothing special is needed for a repeater except that you probably will want a node with a solar panel such as the seeedStudio solar. You would put it up as high as you can get it. I generally say if it's more than 100 feet in the air, use router mode. If it is less than 100 feet but above 20 feet, use client. If it is less than 20 feet, use client mute.

Your node in your pocket or in your car should be on client mute mode since them broadcasting will not get the signal much farther and will just cause more channel utilization on high nodes.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nice, 0 within 25 kilometers of me lol.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Remember, that map is volunteer and only shows nodes of a day or less.

For example, I am the only node in my area who voluntarily puts myself on the map, but there are 10 others who do not.

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I always thought these were more like walkie talkies for messaging than telephones that you can call anyone.

Like it would be good if cell serivce goes down.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 30 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's pretty much exactly what they are. Text message in walkie-talkies. With the added benefit that if your friend can't hear you, but another friend is in between, your message automatically gets relayed through their walkie-talkie.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If I wanted to transmit, for example, temperature and humidity from a sensor once every 5 minutes, would the network be willing to carry my signals?

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

would the network be willing to carry my signals?

That is entirely up to the whim of your neighboring nodes to decide

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

https://meshtastic.org/docs/configuration/radio/device/

SENSOR is one of the defined device roles. And whether for personal automation or public information, it is a reasonable use case for the network.

[–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Everything I learn about this project is so cool. I can’t go through the docs right now, but I’m assuming it can prioritize things like emergency communication over sensor data.

There’s no public nodes in a 200+ km radius around me on that site someone linked, so something tells me I’ll have to do a lot of guerilla solar panel installation if I want to anonymously set up something.

I’ve thought about it on and off over the past two years, more of a private network for family and friends than anything, for emergencies and so on. The real, big problem is that I could be accused of espionage and thrown into jail forever if I do this. So I don’t think I’ll see anyone putting any nodes up for the foreseeable future. At least not public nodes.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can you message random people or have to already know their contact info?

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It is channel-based, using Pre-Shared Keys (PSK).

There is a public line where you can message pretty much everyone with the blank PSK.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

Oh, now that sounds fun

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Companies are starting to manufacture repeaters and they are not that expensive. You can get one for about 100 Federal Reserve Notes.

[–] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I’ve seen some clever stuff where they take a solar powered light and wire in a Heltec V3 for $30-$40. But I thought one of the new upcoming standards (WiFi? Cell?) incorporated a mesh capability.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

Not that im aware of. SeeedStudio has released a new solar node to be a repeater though

[–] Thwompthwomp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sucks you can’t charge it and have to instead go to a central bank to exchange minted coins for notes that you can exchange for the commodity that is the radio.

[–] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

“Money can be exchanged for goods and services” - Homer Simpson

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