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Microsoft admits it would have to let Trump spy on EU data if demanded (www.techradar.com)
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[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 131 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

There's no telling if that hasn't already happened. Europe needs to drop Microsoft ASAP.

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 25 points 14 hours ago

Canada, too. For the last two years, Canada has entrusted sensitive statistical information to Microsoft. We should be treating MS with the same skepticism we currently reserve for Huawei.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 77 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Microsoft said this, but this likely applies to AWS and GCP too.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago

And OCI. Any US based company is subject to the CLOUD act.

[–] Gumus@lemmy.world 31 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Check out Hetzner, a German cloud provider. Established, reliable and way cheaper than AWS.

I know migrating is nigh impossible for most large apps, but creating a new one on AWS/GCP/Azure is so shortsighted.

More people need to know about alternatives.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Hetzner and reliable do not belong in the same sentence.

Cheap yes, reliable no.

I've been using them for my company a lot because of how cheap they are, but compared to other European competitors (like OVH) they are complete garbage. Their pricing is the only redeeming factor.

The Schwartz Group (parent company of Lidl) is currently building a German cloud platform, which sounds a lot more promising.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago

Lidl Web Services

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Hetzner is really trashy though. They seem to suspend or permanently ban folks for no good reason.

https://tenforward.blog/hetzner-considered-hostile-a-psa/

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32318524

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Damn, they really go the extra mile for a full equivalent to googles offering.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 4 points 7 hours ago

Right?? Like some shit doesn't have to be part of the competition..

[–] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 15 hours ago

Color me skeptical of anything Deutsche Telekom. I'd rather look at OVH, Hetzner, and Scaleway than at something from Telekom.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 32 points 16 hours ago

~~Europe~~ Everyone needs to drop Microsoft ASAP

FTFY

[–] comador@lemmy.world 16 points 17 hours ago

Germany and a handful of other countries have been moving to Linux over the past decade. Betting the rate of uptick speeds up now though.