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Google is a horrible company. Stop buying their phones and using their services.
What other hardware supports open source like Graphene?
I want a fairphone 4 with either e/OS or Ubuntu touch. It's still a little out of my price range though.
I would love to run grapheneOS on my phone, but I'm not willing to pay Google to not use Android.
Ok this is gonna blow your mind, you can buy used or refurbished Pixels
You can also buy used or refurbished Fairphones too
I suppose, but Fairphones are a security and thus a privacy nightmare. As soon as you cross a border or police get your phone, e/OS and CalyxOS are virtually useless
I'd interested in learning about this, if you have any links at hand
Of course: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/24134-devices-lacking-standard-privacysecurity-patches-and-protections-arent-private
Edit: this one as well https://grapheneos.org/faq#device-support
I know, but I'd rather leave them to people who really want them, and support the people working hard to make open source products.
You can donate to GrapheneOS and I highly doubt that the hardware of the Fairphone is open
e/OS is a joke btw
And then you indirectly pay google as you fund the people who buy google phones every time a new one comes out.
Yes it is the best way to buy a google phone, but you are still supporting google in most cases.
Arguably, 2nd hand private sellers would have bought it anyway and you are just saving e-waste at that point
Eh, the 2nd hand sellers also wouldn't be buying if they couldn't sell them.
I would think that private buyers buy a phone they are gonna use and then sell it once they don't use it anymore 🧠
I was thinking of the shops that buy used and resell them.
Yes i misread your first comment, I am aware of that without you repeating it.
https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/surya/
I never thought to flash a Fairphone with GNU-Linux. Glad to know Ubuntu has a working smartphone OS
Check out /e/ and iode. If you're looking for a phone with at least 5 years of support the only options are Pixel or Fairphone. Fairphone costs about 2x as much as Pixel for a phone with worst specs.
supported device list in front of your face when you go to the calyx site
I'm enjoying Graphene quite a bit and I really like the cameras on the Pixels. Also I'm restricted because only certain phones are compatible with my Dexcom glucose monitor and Omnipod insulin pump. I really wish I had more options, lots of other great phones out there.
Yo, from one type 1 to another, get yourself some xdrip to replace the dexcom app, its miles ahead and more configurable.
https://github.com/NightscoutFoundation/xDrip
And depending on which omnipod you got, and how technical you are, check out AndroidAPS if you want an open source closed-loop solution.
https://androidaps.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
If you got the omnipod dash you can use it directly with AndroidAPS via Bluetooth.
I use both of these with dexcom G6 and an accu-chek Bluetooth insulin pump, and its amazing vs the commercial solutions.
Um. WHAT?! I'll definitely check those out. I'm actually pretty frustrated with the Dexcom app and I kinda lied before, the Omnipod 5 app is compatible with the Pixel 6 pro but not if its running Graphene so I've been carrying around the Omnipod receiver. Thanks for the info!
I can confirm the xdrip app works on grapheneOS, currently use it on a pixel 8a
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