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For reference, Sony was recently boasting that PS5 sold over 80 million copies. This is terrible for Xbox.

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[–] troed@fedia.io 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I prefer facts to gut feelings.

Sony said its monthly active gaming users for the year ended April 1, 2025, were up 5% at 124 million users, which is the highest in PlayStation’s history.

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/nearly-5-years-in-ps5-sales-remain-neck-and-neck-with-ps4/

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Me too. That's a fact, but it doesn't refute what I said. It's a rosy picture that sounds like it refutes what I said, which is why Sony reports it that way, but it doesn't. 124 million users includes PS4. What the article even mentions in the headline is that it's behind PS4 at the same point in its life, even with the absence of a real competitor this time around in Xbox. Does it sound healthy to you that 5 years into a console generation, Sony can't convince people to move to PS5 when all they play is Minecraft or Fortnite?

EDIT: Btw, Sony categorizes monthly actives as "an estimated total number of unique accounts that played games or used services on the PlayStation Network during the last month of the quarter and is based on company research, and may be updated in the future", emphasis mine. My PS4 only streams video these days, and it sure sounds like it's counted in that same metric.

[–] troed@fedia.io -1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

... I get that this is a REALLY important topic to you - but the article also explains how the PS5 is much more expensive (inflation adjusted) at this point in time compared to the PS4. That's very much part of "doing well".

Also, that the PS4 numbers are included is no different from the PS3 before - and your claim was that Sony was losing customers at that.

Take the L.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

I said perhaps, because our data is always lagging behind real time by a few months, and the difference between the two generations' units sold is close enough that the gap could have been covered in the time it takes to report on it. We don't know that it has, but it's possible. Increased spending on exclusives, and fewer of them, has led to decreased margins on them, and the bulk of PlayStation's revenue is coming from third parties that are available everywhere while PlayStation's own games are going multiplatform as well, a thing that they never used to do. There's no L for me to take here.