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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 233 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

If it was about money, MasterVisa would have already given up. There are people who claim that MasterVisa bent the knee to Collective Shout for the sake of money, yet when a much bigger demographic speaks, MasterVisa tries to ignore it.

This is about the power to shape society.

[–] Pjonathan@lemmy.world 42 points 5 days ago

The fact that multi-millionaires are doing to most heinous shit with their money and getting a way with it, meanwhile me, a wage slave, has a payment processor telling me what I'm allowed to do with my money, society is built on tiers.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Gamers who care about this are a much smaller group than American regressive religious zealots.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 76 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Australian religious zealots are the ones taking credit for the steam & itch.io censorship.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The hypothesis I've heard is that the zealots have deep enough ties to the Australian government to be pains in the ass for MasterCard and Visa. Though I can't imagine Australia is a big enough demographic to really matter meaningfully, also if you are any type of international entity you should have Australia marked as fuck ass stupid place is the Idaho of the Anglosphere shitty government but with lots of decent folks about.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Uh. No.

Do you seriously think Australia is a big enough player for mastercard and visa to kowtow despite building pressure planetwide? We're fucking small potatoes and we've always known it.

Payment processors own upper echelons are full of weird religious fundamentalists, and that's where a lot of this is coming from. Don't give collective shout any credit, very few people in Australia even knew who the fuck they were before they started claiming shit. They're the online version of that weird proselytiser outside st paul's.

(And if you think Conroy is a tie, lemme describe in detail how much people want to barbecue that idiot...)

Fair enough, though them being stupid greedy bastards is also an element to the why in such a situation. Regardless Visa and MasterCard need to pushed out of the financial system and forcibly dissolved.