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"We wanted a fresh new debacle instead!"
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Ew. Survival games benefit more than most genres from iteration, but that's better done as updates and expansions unless they make a truly qualitative leap, which I doubt will happen under their leadership. This reeks of them wanting to pump out as many full-priced titles as possible, probably with an ever-higher price tag as Subnautica becomes an established IP.
Factorio did it right, IMO. V2.0 as a free update to the base game, launch a paid expansion at the same time.
Wube is pretty much the only developer I have faith in to consistently do things right.
Rimworld keeps me buying every couple years with absolutely killer DLC that enhances the game just right. And yeah you can get most of those features for free with mods, but first party support is always welcome.
RimWorld also releases a huge list of polish and quality of life changes for free with each expansion. The latest patch that released alongside the Odyssey expansion obviated the need for about half of the QoL mods I considered mandatory before then.
And let’s not exclude the MASSIVE performance boost in the latest update. They’re doing great over there.
The patch was worth it for the load time reduction alone.
A lot of indie devs are good about that. Squad, KSP's original devs, even mandated to their buyer that all DLCs existing and future had to be free for backers since they'd listed that as a promise on their original Kickstarter.
i should buy that game
I agree, but Subnautica was more about exploration than just survival. Sure, you could keep expanding the world to add new environments, but eventually that gets out of hand. For a Subnautica type game, making new ones makes sense, especially to address tech debt as well and start fresh.
"Whenever I have a problem I throw a molatov cocktail and it and bam! Different problem."
Subnautica is as much of a survival game as Minecraft is. The only 'survival' happens in the first 5-10 minutes of the game and never again.
It's not a survival game unless you get mauled by wolves in the first 10 minutes.
VS players represent.
Vintage Story player?
Is it really that obvious? 😅
Subnautica isn't just a survival game, but a story driven game as well, and given how janky their engine was, it's not a surprise that they'd want to overhaul it from the ground up.
Their engine? It was built on Unity.
i think the comment was more on how they started designing the game with terraformning as a central conceit and a randomly-generated voxel world, then scrapped all that when it was too late to pull it out of the game. so the world is still procedural and fully destructible, but the random seed is static and there is nothing left in the game that damages terrain.
I mean their codebase more generally.
Shit, I'll take sequels over as-a-service any day. Let continuing revenue be the result of making new things and games being good.