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[–] charles@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I see a pretty stark difference between people who married young and had kids right away, vs people who married young and enjoyed their time for a while before having kids. The ones who had kids seem weird to me, never got a chance to goof off in their 20s and figure out who they are. The ones who waited feel more normal. But that's just my experience.

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

The ones who had kids seem weird to me, never got a chance to goof off in their 20s and figure out who they are.

I definitely needed to goof off in my 20s and figure out who I was. But not everybody is like that, and the meme in question suggests it's "weird" to know who you are and not need to goof off.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

How old are you? No need to be specific this isn’t a creepy question lol just roughly what age are you? Because I don’t think we can make any sort of broad assessment until the people who had kids when they were young have kids out of the house. I know plenty
of people who are enjoying their 40’s with kids happily going off to college around that time. If you have kids in your early to mid 30’s - assuming you stopped at 35, which isn’t a given - you’re starting to have them out in your mid 50’s. Those are very different times for you, physically, mentally, professionally, etc. even if it doesn’t seem like it.

I imagine for many in this thread it is too early to be making a final assessment. I think also a lot of people here forget that nobody is thrusting these decisions upon them (except maybe overeager parents who want to be grandparents, in which case they need to back off). Different people have different objectives/goals in life. They aren’t worse off for not doing it your way.

The strongest marriage I know is my buddy from high school who married his high school sweetheart, right when they graduated college at 21. They just had their 3rd kid at 35 and they’re ecstatic. First was at 22 or so.

The point is a post like this shows a certain amount of hubris/lack of imagination/lack of exposure to people with different lifestyles and priorities.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I just can't imagine being a grandfather at >70... and seeing NOTHING of that generation before I'm doomed to dementia/death.

My Grandparents were a HUGE part of my life... and knowing that some people don't want to be that positive influence to their grandkids lives is disappointing. Raising kids is a hard thing to do. To not be around when my daughters need the help is something that I refuse to acknowledge as "healthy" just because some numpties on the internet think that everyone should be older than 35 to have kids.

As it stands, I haven't needed my parents much at all for raising my kids (I was 26 for my oldest, I would have been fine going a bit younger as I was more or less in the same situation). But they're there if something happens (familial fallbacks are great bus factor multipliers.)

A lot of what I'm reading here sounds like most people seem to think that you should be 100% self-sustaining before you do ANYTHING... and that's just not an answer that works in my brain.

Edit: This whole premise is actually a really good way to kill generational knowledge. My dad doesn't know nearly the same stuff my grandfather does about the family.

[–] Alivrah@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is the main point here, IMO. A child is a huge responsibility and the early 20s is a period of life you're still figuring things out. Culture also plays a role here; where I'm from, people are deciding to live together (without having kids) for a couple of years before formally marrying.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Having a kid in your 20s is not for you, but you can’t just assume that that is the case for everyone else.

I mean, let’s take this post: what is so magical about 24? Why not 25? Why not 23? I imagine the number was pretty arbitrary. It just sounded right to OP.