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[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 6 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Whataboutism isn’t useful. Nobody is living the perfect life. Every improvement we can make towards a more sustainable way of living is good. Everyone needs to start somewhere and even if they never move to make more changes at least they made the one.

[–] threeduck@aussie.zone 2 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

1 beef burger is equivalent in water consumption to 7.5million chatgpt queries.

[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I did a quick calculation and got to around 500 queries per quarter pounder. Lot of guesstimation and rounding though, but I’m pretty sure I got close enough to know that you’re off by quite a lot.

Edit to add: I used 21.9kg CO2 per 1kg of beef and 4.32 grams per ChatGPT query for my rough estimate.

However that 4.32 number is already over a year old. Chances are it’s way outdated but everyone still keeps on quoting it. It definitely does not take into account that ChatGPT often “thinks” now, because chain of thought is likely as expensive as multiple queries by itself. Additionally the models are more advanced than a year ago, but also more costly and that CO2 amount everyone keeps quoting doesn’t even mention which model they used. If anyone can find the original source of this number I’d be very curious.

[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have a citation handy for that?

[–] thatcrow@ttrpg.network 3 points 7 hours ago

If he did, would it change your views on eating meat at all?

[–] thatcrow@ttrpg.network 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I disagree.

There's so much proud ignorance in this world, it's great to always remind the average person how they're contributing to problems they don't even realize.

We should bring their hypocrisy to light, or else they will legitimately go through life thinking that there isn't a problem.

[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

So when people tell you about the positive changes they’ve made you in return like to point out that they still aren’t living up to your standards? I’m not sure that’s the way to go to motivate and inspire people to do better. But you do you I guess.